Originally posted by pym-ftw
I don't think it is where they open up at, same as people that argue instance bfr, Speedblitz, God Blast.. its an option and it is literally the max they could be forced to go to...So no Odin isn't going to galaxy bust superman in a fight, but if he fought Galactus he might...
I hope that makes sence
But in combat he's only Galaxy Busted once against Seth...
He has no combat feat greater than that, so thats a High Feat for him...isnt it?
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderSo? Plus, as Infinity he was destroying many many planets, and then he healed all the damage with his sceptre, so he's got that as well.
But he's only done it this once (against Seth) in actual combat Branlor...And if that is not a High Feat for Odin (in combat situations), what has he done outside of his fight against Seth thats greater? What does he have under his belt that makes the Seth showing average?
Btw, I did make a mistake; you are correct, it was an amped Seth that he fought against in Asgard...not Set.
Beat up Surtur for the easy one.
Evidently galaxy destroying attacks didn't annihilate Seth so I can't see how high of a feat that actually is. He has more powerful attacks being shown in comics by a good amount without damaging rocks below him.
The only thing the galaxy scan shows is that he shits on other collateral damage feats from a Hulk. And shows that he can damage a lot of stuff at once along with suns (which is pretty neat admittedly). It doesn't mark his power up, or show he was trying harder. It shows the scope of his power but doesn't up it. If anything it'd disperse it, but I digress.
He destroyed a galaxy. He didn't destroy a galaxy full of powerful beings.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
But in combat he's only Galaxy Busted once against Seth...He has no combat feat greater than that, so thats a High Feat for him...isnt it?
Now on to your question :
"High" feats are fine, IMHO, as long as they aren't "one time" things. If a character does X feat once in like 40 years time, then I consider that a plot device BUT if a character does X multiple times in their history then that's just the way they roll power wise.
For example : Odin and galaxy busting. It's not just a one time thing vs Seth, he's done it before against Forsung (or however you spell his name) and once more after that (can't remember the fight). Those are more than enough times to be considered a "galaxy buster" (I mean how many times does a galaxy busting opportunity arise?).
Also ,"High Showings" are fine as long as they don't reek of PIS/CIS.
Originally posted by operator616
he has also done it in thor #185, and more recently he contained all fires of creation.
Zopzop, a high that reeks of Character-Induced-Stupidity? what? 😛
Anyways, people will have high feats and low feats, but there are obvious incidents that just violate a character's abilities/history so much that there simply is no other explanation than a writer having no idea wtf he's talking about.
Like Black Panther's stuff with the Surfer, Thor getting stalemated in a wrestling match by BP's human bodyguard, etc. Obviously you shouldn't debate solely using high feats, but this is a forum filled with a lot of (at least some) people who have been reading thousands upon thousands of comics. People well into their 20s and 30s, that should be able to recognize shit that like, and call it for what it is.
People who know that sometimes, writers don't know what the **** they're doing 🙂
^infinity, not the abstract though.
here's the fight:
http://i.imgur.com/aaTwQNc.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/piVSTfd.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/YW9xNpN.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/g70BCbL.jpg
next issue is irrelevant to the fight.
The real problem with the average showings idea is determining what qualifies as "average".
Even if you've read every single appearance of a character (which is nigh-impossible for most well-known characters), finding the "average" involves considering many different circumstances (was the character powered up/weakened during a feat, were there extenuating circumstances, etc.) There's also the fact that many comic characters grow stronger over time, for example I'm currently going through the original FF run and it's commented on that they are constantly getting stronger, faster, more powerful, etc. So what was "average" for a character just a few years ago might not be "average" for them today. Then of course you have the problem of attempting to quantify every feat and seeing how they compare with each other.
Of course I'm not suggesting defining character capabilities only be extreme high-end feats, if a feat is clearly an outlier and way above what they can typically do (i.e. Superman beating Dominus, Odin casually absorbing multiverse-busting energies) etc. it should probably be discounted.
