Let me try and clarify whilst responding/debating with myself real quick.
Originally posted by Dolos
The human brain does so much more than IT with so much less that it makes any software look like a joke. A complete layout of synaptic activity, aka "Mind Uploading", would allow for a simulated sentient system that would still deviate from the human thought process eventually, wouldn't it?
What I was trying to get at here is that a software system can observe and mimic the patterns of a thousand neural networks for the duration of a thousand biological lifetimes.
Yet, the software that is mimicking these patterns will eventually revert to logic; and, something about the human condition that makes us so efficient at synchronizing our skills and personalities to greater affect on the sociological level; will eventually be lost in the process.
Or maybe not, such a sustained method might take away why computers are so good at computing. I'm picturing The Oracle from the Matrix, a super artificially intelligent computer system unlike the Architect, in that instead of being very good with equations, she somehow "knew the future".
*The Matrix Trilogy.
[I have this theory that humans, unlike animals and any future Super Intelligence from nanoelectronic circuity, runs on a kind of predestined mindset. Hence; religion, why people see things and put a meaning to it, providence. Why we experience and interpret such as "purpose". In Dune that's how the Kwisatz Haderach was able to utilize probability manipulation, by seeing glimpses of the future. But obviously they weren't of the future, this prescience to me was a very advanced mind predicting very accurately. Hence, probability manipulation.
Not exactly probability manipulation, the first few books in Dune were about the Golden Path, it was diverting from using machines to become socially apathetic. Replacing that machine control of things with human control. And how that happened was a more advanced version of the societal hierarchy common all throughout pre-machine history. Ergo; religion, collective consciousness.
Not probability manipulation, coerced or organized synchronization based on the metaphysical premises of purpose and destiny inherent in all of us.
The best intelligence utilizes AI for its strengths and human intelligence for its strengths.
Don't abolish the things that make us so great at society. But also, don't rule out a machine society either, instead try and see how things work out, work towards total assimilation.
I think both Dune and the Matrix try and make it a point that we rushed things, and that's why there was conflict, and no transition from Type 0 to Type 1. It wasn't until the later Dune novels or the finale of the Matrix films that machines and humans found this fact, and started working towards Michio Kaku's version of Kardashev's Type 1 civilization.
Re: Re: Re: I know longer believe in Techno-utopia or Accelerating Returns
Originally posted by Dolos
I have a very...interesting future ahead of me. I'm more ambitious than Astner and with all his schooling. He'll settle for one PhD, I won't.
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You've already usurped him as KMC's #1 Sciencer. Future's limitless now.
Originally posted by Mindship
So, eventually, you guys will be catching up to me.
That would be a bit of an overstatement: I really don't think we'll ever catch up to the mighty Mindship. 😄
Originally posted by Bardock42
I'm considering dropping out of University for good. Degreeless, of course.
Go to school to study stuff you like.
Originally posted by Bardock42I think the pension I'm looking will take 7 years. To get that I'll need a special degree which will take me until age 26-27. So at aged 33-34 I'll have all the time in the world to focus on educating myself and providence for a free unlimited education to boot.
When will you be a scientist you think? What kind of scientist?
The degrees will all be used for fields of advanced technology and medicine. Psychology, neurology, biology, evo devo (Human Genome), biochemistry, information/internet technology, engineering, robotics, integrated circuit technology, electronics, nanoelectronics, nanorobotics, bionanorobotics, all pure mathematics degrees and the physics extensions of those, nuclear physics, particle physics, theoretical physics, etc.
Computer Sciences: algorithm and data structure development and design, software engineering, information theory, database theory, computational complexity theory, human-computer interaction, numerical analysis, programming language theory, computer graphics, and computer vision, etc.
I have interests in futurism, space exploration, post-scarcity civilization, intelligence augmentation, and strong AI.
Originally posted by Bardock42
How do you make money to live?
Google the word, "Pension". A 7 digit pension will keep you in the middle class, even with the dramatic inflation ahead.
And it appears like you want to get a PhD or even two, which field of study do you want to focus on for these first two?
There were nearly 20 PhDs, and at least 6 fields of study in my response.
Those are probably the tip of the iceberg, I'll horde degrees, everything I'm interested in I'll study.
Originally posted by Dolos
Google the word, "Pension". A 7 digit pension will keep you in the middle class, even with the dramatic inflation ahead.
Originally posted by Dolos
There were nearly 20 PhDs, and at least 6 fields of study in my response.
Then there's the issue that you're pretty much ten years of study away from even starting working on a Ph.D. On top of that you're going to be too old to be offered a doctorate position.
Originally posted by Dolos
Those are probably the tip of the iceberg, I'll horde degrees, everything I'm interested in I'll study.
Originally posted by Dolos
Google the word, "Pension". A 7 digit pension will keep you in the middle class, even with the dramatic inflation ahead.
Okay, let me rephrase. What job are you working right now?
There were nearly 20 PhDs, and at least 6 fields of study in my response.
Originally posted by Dolos
Those are probably the tip of the iceberg, I'll horde degrees, everything I'm interested in I'll study.
I feel like that's a bit utopian, considering the current way academia works. But it's nice that you have goals. Perhaps more realistic ones or shorter term ones might be better though.
Originally posted by Astner
How the **** will you work yourself to a seven digit pension in seven years?
If you count 2 digits for the cents, perhaps.
Originally posted by Astner
I think that somewhere along the line you confused ambition for talking shit. Once you get your Ph.D. then you can talk shit, until then you can't.
That's a bummer, I guess no one in this thread then can talk shit?