Doesn't it also feel like the feats being posted are more selective toward Kal than Strange? I mean, I get that there are a few on a crusade to drop Strange down a peg. And they have some good points, and have helped me reassess my idea of Strange quite a bit. But if an outsider was walking into this thread with no prior knowledge, he'd have a very, very skewed view of Strange's actual capabilities. Take any character with 1000+ total appearances, scan-spam all their worst showings, and they all look like utter chumps. But it's not a complete picture.
Originally posted by Digibeautifully said.
Doesn't it also feel like the feats being posted are more selective toward Kal than Strange? I mean, I get that there are a few on a crusade to drop Strange down a peg. And they have some good points, and have helped me reassess my idea of Strange quite a bit. But if an outsider was walking into this thread with no prior knowledge, he'd have a very, very skewed view of Strange's actual capabilities. Take any character with 1000+ total appearances, scan-spam all their worst showings, and they all look like utter chumps. But it's not a complete picture.
I say that Strange has the power to beat Superman.
The battle would be about will he have the time to do it.
The answer is, in some cases he will in others he won't.
Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
Lol at you guys passing it as evidence as clark outright resisting time froze when it clearly appeared he was singled out as the only one unaffected in that scan.Carver's right this time.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes. Read the scan and find out yourself.
So we're just throwing out superman's showings here? Good to know.Take your surfer butthurt to another thread. This isn't the thread with surfer.
I did read the scan and I am not seeing what you are seeing. Where does it say he speeded out of time stop?
Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
So basically he escaped it rather than resisting it very much unlike what you said prior.So there was no time-stop resistance feat?
Originally posted by Endless Mike
Just look at the Arion vs. Superman battle in the Camelot Falls arc. Strange can do everything Arion could do there, except times like a billion. And Supes needed a plot device shield from the Phantom Stranger in that battle or he would have died.
Or Superman tanks his attacks and bashes strange's head in like he did against Mordru. How's that for a fight?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Read again when he said "something is happening". Where was it mentioned that he was spared from the attack anyway?
Him saying "something is happening" doesn't mean he knew time stop was happening. Its obvious he was spared since there was nothing shown of him using super speed to bypass time stop.
Originally posted by abhilegend'
"He speeded out of it" means he overcame it. Its not the first time either.
Then I could point out a lot of strange's fight with bricks. Just look at what hulk did to him in Defenders. Arion was sorcerer supreme of DC at one point too IIRC.Or Superman tanks his attacks and bashes strange's head in like he did against Mordru. How's that for a fight?
If overcame you meant evaded by moving out of the way, well then yeah superman did overcame it.
If you meant it as what you just posted before of resisting it then absolutely not.
Also waverider clearly wasn't operating on normal on that scan so the only thing that could be attributed to superman there is being able to sense time disruption process by a not-so optimal time manipulator. Nothing else should be.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
Don't really want to get into the debate and I haven't even seen the scan but if there is no time-stop resistance feat...there is the feat of Superman being able to recognize when time stop is happening and react accordingly. If what you guys are saying is true anyways.
Which is utter nonsense. There is no way for him to recognize that time was about to stop (The moment it did stop, it would be to late.) What's this super power called?
Originally posted by Digi
Doesn't it also feel like the feats being posted are more selective toward Kal than Strange? I mean, I get that there are a few on a crusade to drop Strange down a peg. And they have some good points, and have helped me reassess my idea of Strange quite a bit. But if an outsider was walking into this thread with no prior knowledge, he'd have a very, very skewed view of Strange's actual capabilities. Take any character with 1000+ total appearances, scan-spam all their worst showings, and they all look like utter chumps. But it's not a complete picture.
Well said.
Originally posted by carver9
Him saying "something is happening" doesn't mean he knew time stop was happening. Its obvious he was spared since there was nothing shown of him using super speed to bypass time stop.
Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
'If overcame you meant evaded by moving out of the way, well then yeah superman did overcame it.
If you meant it as what you just posted before of resisting it then absolutely not.
Also waverider clearly wasn't operating on normal on that scan so the only thing that could be attributed to superman there is being able to sense time disruption process by a not-so optimal time manipulator. Nothing else should be.
Why not? Give a reasoning.
Waverider was grieving, his powers were intact.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Which is utter nonsense. There is no way for him to recognize that time was about to stop (The moment it did stop, it would be to late.) What's this super power called?
Its called super-speed and it has been used several times by Flash to overcome time-stops. Why surprised that superman can do that too?
http://i.imgur.com/NiwyNDs.jpg
Strange can do this with a thought.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman has speeded out of time stops before. He later recognized it as a time-stop when moving out of it.
That whole area was stopped in time. There was no evading.Why not? Give a reasoning.
Waverider was grieving, his powers were intact.
Then you would be floored to know that superman can operate in an area with no time at all.Its called super-speed and it has been used several times by Flash to overcome time-stops. Why surprised that superman can do that too?
OMG...your interpretation of things.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
http://i.imgur.com/NiwyNDs.jpgStrange can do this with a thought.
Originally posted by Supermex
Who wins?
No prep..Fight 1.
No prep..
No B.F.R..Fight 2.
No prep..
With B.F.R on..Classic Strange
Vs
Superman
In only one fight and Superman can traverse realities to reach the battlefield.