Nekron makes his way to Marvel Universe and causes havock.

Started by TheGodKiller11 pages

Originally posted by "Id"
Was that thing empowerd by the Phoenix?

Nope. It was a Gundam-style robot created by a race of ancient extraterrestrials that fought the Celestials for dominion over all of existence at beginning of time. And they came pretty damn close to wiping out the whole Celestial race with that thing.

The Celestials only won in the end because the Aspirants' got wasted in a Civil War.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
You're confusing quan's fantasy with quan's reality. Quan's reality: gets beaten unconscious to a bloody pulp. Quan's fantasy: "Hahaha, I thrashed him up real good!"

Nekron wins based on better feats, a better win/loss record, more power etc.

You are basing it off of an amped version. Read his words again and quit denying on panel proof.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
You're confusing quan's fantasy with quan's reality. Quan's reality: gets beaten unconscious to a bloody pulp. Quan's fantasy: "Hahaha, I thrashed him up real good!"

Nekron wins based on better feats, a better win/loss record, more power etc.

Are you serious with the better win/loss record comment? No one wins a fight because of their prior record. Also, have you considered the hundreds few appearances this B level character has had over the decades. Technically, you are wrong. Galactus has had tons more wins...and losses.

Originally posted by Mindset
Nekron isn't unkillable.

He sure as hell is for the beings mentioned in this thread so far : Galactus, the PF, and the Celestials.

Galactus eats him, deal with it.

Even assuming it was possible for Galactus to eat an abstract, his physical manifestation would just reform in his gut. I already posted the scan of him reforming after the White Entity possessed Sinestro destroyed his form by removing his heart.

Hell, even his minions are capable of reforming FROM ATOMS :

The Black Lanterns were atomized yet they were constantly reforming and being destroyed by Mogo's core's heat.

Galactus atomized the Elders and they reformed in his gut :

UNLIKE Mogo, Galactus' gut doesn't constantly breakdown his "food" so they reformed and were killing him until Order and Chaos saved his ass.

Nekron has so many ways to end Galactus, Galactus' only hope is the UN.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That was a power amp not a connection amp.

He failed.

His words. Read them again.


It was NOT an amp. It was the power source to fuel the Black Ring creation process. It spat out rings and with each being the rings killed and raised, the Corps power level was raised .01%. When it reached 100% they were able to gate Nekron into the physical universe :

It was there only as a power source to spit out Black Rings. The Black Rings themselves gained power from the number of beings they killed and raised. Once they gathered enough energy to raise their power level to 100%, they gated Nekron in.

Prove Nekron amped off that thing. I'll wait.

It's flat out stupid to think Nekron himself amped off the Anti-Monitor.

Saying that shows one of the following:

1. You didn't read
2. You read, but didn't comprehend
3. You'll say anything to try to make a point
4. Any combination of the above

Originally posted by zopzop
Nekron has so many ways to end Galactus, Galactus' only hope is the UN.
I'm not even convinced that nullification would be sufficient to defeat Nekron, zop. After all, Nekron embodies nothingness/the void/oblivion-- and when something is nullified in Marvel, it is sent to Oblivion's dimension:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16338664/quasar-40-04.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16338665/quasar-40-10.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16338669/quasar-40-11.jpg.html

So it seems that using the UN against Nekron would merely send him back to his native realm-- and for the purposes of this thread, I'm assuming that the gateway between the living world and Nekron's realm will be open, as it was during Blackest Night. Thus, if Nekron is sent back to his native realm via the UN, he would simply have to stroll back into the living world to re-enter the battle.

Only the Marvel-equivalent of "the white light that sparked creation"(life) can perma-banish Nekron.

Originally posted by zopzop
It was NOT an amp. It was the power source to fuel the Black Ring creation process. It spat out rings and with each being the rings killed and raised, the Corps power level was raised .01%. When it reached 100% they were able to gate Nekron into the physical universe :

It was there only as a power source to spit out Black Rings. The Black Rings themselves gained power from the number of beings they killed and raised. Once they gathered enough energy to raise their power level to 100%, they gated Nekron in.

Prove Nekron amped off that thing. I'll wait.

The scan which was already put up confirms my solid case. He was amped off of him and quickly lost upon losing the mega amp.

Originally posted by Galan007
I'm not even convinced that nullification would be sufficient to defeat Nekron, zop. After all, Nekron embodies nothingness/the void/oblivion-- and when something is nullified in Marvel, it is sent to Oblivion's dimension:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16338664/quasar-40-04.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16338665/quasar-40-10.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16338669/quasar-40-11.jpg.html

So it seems that using the UN against Nekron would merely send him back to his native realm-- and for the purposes of this thread, I'm assuming that the gateway between the living world and Nekron's realm will be open, as it was during Blackest Night. Thus, if Nekron is sent back to his native realm via the UN, he would simply have to stroll back into the living world to re-enter the battle.

Only the Marvel-equivalent of "the white light that sparked creation"(life) can perma-banish Nekron.


Oh, I know Galan. I should have been more clear in what I meant by "only hope". But yeah, the UN is his only hope of a win via BFR.
Originally posted by quanchi112
The scan which was already put up confirms my solid case. He was amped off of him and quickly lost upon losing the mega amp.

This is beneath you Quan!

Originally posted by Galan007
Only the Marvel-equivalent of "the white light that sparked creation"(life) can perma-banish Nekron.

From Marvel Wiki:

The Phoenix Force is described as being "the embodiment of the very passion of Creation – the spark that gave life to the Universe , the flame that will ultimately consume it."

Originally posted by zopzop
Oh, I know Galan. I should have been more clear in what I meant by "only hope". But yeah, the UN is his only hope of a win via BFR.

This is beneath you Quan!

The words are plain and easy to understand.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
From Marvel Wiki:

The Phoenix Force is described as being "the embodiment of the very passion of Creation – [B]the spark that gave life to the Universe , the flame that will ultimately consume it." [/B]

Exactly. Custom made to beat Nekron.

Originally posted by Galan007
I'm not even convinced that nullification would be sufficient to defeat Nekron, zop. After all, Nekron embodies nothingness/the void/oblivion-- and when something is nullified in Marvel, it is sent to Oblivion's dimension:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16338664/quasar-40-04.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16338665/quasar-40-10.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16338669/quasar-40-11.jpg.html

So it seems that using the UN against Nekron would merely send him back to his native realm-- and for the purposes of this thread, I'm assuming that the gateway between the living world and Nekron's realm will be open, as it was during Blackest Night. Thus, if Nekron is sent back to his native realm via the UN, he would simply have to stroll back into the living world to re-enter the battle.

Only the Marvel-equivalent of "the white light that sparked creation"(life) can perma-banish Nekron.

I think it's assumed that they are "within a neutral universe where the battle takes place" and that for the purpose of the battle itself, they are assumed to be able to exist in it normally, but I don't think it's assumed that an outside force that would return them to said universe in case they were banished would be maintained open.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
From Marvel Wiki:
The Phoenix Force is described as being "the embodiment of the very passion of Creation – [B]the spark that gave life to the Universe
, the flame that will ultimately consume it." [/B]
As we've seen several times in the past(inc. very recently), the PF's actual showings are a far, FAR cry from its wiki-description.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
I think it's assumed that they are "within a neutral universe where the battle takes place" and that for the purpose of the battle itself, they are assumed to be able to exist in it normally, but I don't think it's assumed that an outside force that would return them to said universe in case they were banished would be maintained open.
Ok, then if Nekron were banished by the UN it should constitute a BFR win.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
From Marvel Wiki:

The Phoenix Force is described as being "the embodiment of the very passion of Creation – [B]the spark that gave life to the Universe , the flame that will ultimately consume it." [/B]


Wikia? Really? LOL.
Originally posted by quanchi112
The words are plain and easy to understand.

Sigh, whatever Quan.

Originally posted by zopzop
Wikia? Really? LOL.

Sigh, whatever Quan.

Uhm, yes. The scan makes it pretty clear. I accept your complete and unconditional surrender.

Originally posted by Galan007
As we've seen several times in the past(inc. very recently), the PF's actual showings are a far, FAR cry from its wiki-description.

Ok, then if Nekron were banished by the UN it should constitute a BFR win.

But wasn't talking about "actually showings" at this time, I was providing a description of the nature of the power. You are being avoidant because it's description is simiar to D.C. white light being.

Originally posted by zopzop
Wikia? Really? LOL.

Sigh, whatever Quan.

Correct. Would you rather me to give you Stan Lee's phone number?

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Correct. Would you rather me to give you Stan Lee's phone number?
He destroyed his own case with that scan anyways.

Originally posted by Galan007
As we've seen several times in the past(inc. very recently), the PF's actual showings are a far, FAR cry from its wiki-description.

Ok, then if Nekron were banished by the UN it should constitute a BFR win.

What else are you supposed to do to an immortal, extra dimensional abstract being?