Originally posted by Cyner
I'm not. I've played Zelda games in the past because they were about 10-20 hours max. But with TP and SS we have games that are 40+ hours. Honestly there is a place for that but I don't want it to be in LoZ. This is the same reason I haven't played a JRPG in forever, every single game is 9001 hours long.
I CAME BACK.
Okay I want to try (one) Zelda game to try to get me into the series. I have a Wii and from what I understand basically any game in the series is playable on it except the portable games.
I know Ocarina is called one of the best games ever but I tried it on my 3DS and just couldn't get into it.. is that the one I should soldier on and try? OR I do have Twilight Princess Wii (that my family actually got on launch) that I tried and failed to get into. I also have Project64 but I won't talk about that because I know it's not allowed.
Failing that, I'd also try a 2D Zelda game if that's what you guys recommend - remember, this is the one that's going to sell me on this series or not. Also I sound elitist and I don't mean to, sorry. Just please help. 13
Originally posted by BarkerNot sure what to say.
I CAME BACK.Okay I want to try (one) Zelda game to try to get me into the series. I have a Wii and from what I understand basically any game in the series is playable on it except the portable games.
I know Ocarina is called one of the best games ever but I tried it on my 3DS and just couldn't get into it.. is that the one I should soldier on and try? OR I do have Twilight Princess Wii (that my family actually got on launch) that I tried and failed to get into. I also have Project64 but I won't talk about that because I know it's not allowed.
Failing that, I'd also try a 2D Zelda game if that's what you guys recommend - remember, this is the one that's going to sell me on this series or not. Also I sound elitist and I don't mean to, sorry. Just please help. 13
Ocarina of Time is often considered the best in the series because it was the first game to make an almost perfect transition from 2d to 3d, introduced the Z-targeting an element still used today which made 3d combat technically possible and good. It also had the most beautiful graphics at the time. It simply gets the nod.
IMHO A Link to the Past is the best Zelda because...really all OoT is a 3d AlttP IMHO.
You can try Twilight Princess which is basically an upgraded/updated OoT with better story and smarter dungeon design.
But I think the real question is...just what is it about the games that doesn't let you get into them?
Sounds like you're a Zelda genre racist and I will now escort you out of my thread uhuh
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Skyward Sword.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
Not sure what to say.Ocarina of Time is often considered the best in the series because it was the first game to make an almost perfect transition from 2d to 3d, introduced the Z-targeting an element still used today which made 3d combat technically possible and good. It also had the most beautiful graphics at the time. It simply gets the nod.
IMHO A Link to the Past is the best Zelda because...really all OoT is a 3d AlttP IMHO.
You can try Twilight Princess which is basically an upgraded/updated OoT with better story and smarter dungeon design.
But I think the real question is...just what is it about the games that doesn't let you get into them?
Sounds like you're a Zelda genre racist and I will now escort you out of my thread uhuh
I don't even know why I haven't gotten into them.. Oot I gave up after sneaking around in the castle at the beginning and there was a Princess cutscene I think.. and a weird town where something was missing I think. Kids or adults or something. TP I gave up when I lost track of the story, I think I was up on a wall for the first time.
This time I'd make sure to soldier on though. Sounds like I'm going to try Oot.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Why? Zelda games aren't like JRPGs, longer games just means more glorious dungeoneering and overworld exploration. I love it when good games are long.
Replayability, filler gameplay, filler story.
Skyward Sword was able to somewhat minimize these issues but they are issues that always pop up in longer games. Twilight Princess was terrible in this regard. 40+ hours and so much story and gameplay filler that they forgot to resolve some of the things they were exploring. The game was fun but there could have easily been 10+ hours cut from it without a problem. I'm hoping Nintendo will avoid this issue if possible but it's rare that any company does when a game starts getting to these lengths.
Let me add that if LoZ series went for the open world aspect again that the exploration involved in that sort of gameplay lets the artificial game lengthening happen without feeling like it's filler, but rather the natural course of gameplay. This lets you simultaneously have a "longer" campaign while allowing people who are in a second play to breeze through to the content they wish to replay without having to play the obvious filler again.
Twilight Princess would have been close to perfect without the stupid light tears gathering missions and lame one-time use items/weapons.
They need to flesh out Hyrule. Make it have actual life, villages, houses, etc.
TP hyrule was like 5 times as big as Ocarina's but it was a blank slate. Shit at least Ocarina had Lon Lon ranch.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
Twilight Princess would have been close to perfect without the stupid light tears gathering missions and lame one-time use items/weapons.They need to flesh out Hyrule. Make it have actual life, villages, houses, etc.
TP hyrule was like 5 times as big as Ocarina's but it was a blank slate. Shit at least Ocarina had Lon Lon ranch.
Just edited my other post.
That was a big problem too. No people, just like one or two easy as heck enemies in a giant open field.
I want voice overs.
Voice overs are 'eh' for me. At most, I would let a Midna style almost language fly, but I don't think voices are really right for Zelda. That and the fact that they've never done it before so the potential for screw ups is higher than it would be for others.
Link's little 'come on!' shout in Wind Waker is pretty much the most voice he's had. Mario is the same way, with little voice clips, but when you start getting longer sentences it starts sounding weird. Then Samus' first brush with voice acting didn't sound the best. Eh, it just seems that Nintendo in general has difficulty with voice acting. Or localizing it, at least.
However, nonlinear dungeon order and new items/abilities would be a definite plus.