Kingdom Come Superman Vs Superman (Kal-L)

Started by Galan0072 pages

Originally posted by abhilegend
Then explain this
Different origins.

Yes, I know JSA Gog was supposedly retconned into the same Gog Superman had encountered before(William Matthews), but that doesn't change the fact that their origins are still MUCH different.

Gog's origin in AC #825:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16360828/ac825_js_02.jpg.html

Gog's origin in JSA:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16360826/16-17.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16360827/18.jpg.html

Tack on the fact that Superman alone was able to one-shot the former, while the latter tooled the entire JSA, and the difference between their depicted powers becomes clear.

...Unless you believe Supes can one-shot a guy who was owning a JSA roster that included: KC Supes+Alan Scott+Obsidian+Power Girl+Amazing Man+Citizen Steel+Starman+Lightning+Jessi Quick. etc. etc..? Point: DC may have intended for them to be the same character, but they did a piss-poor job depicting them the same... Shit, they didn't even give them the same origin. srsly

Originally posted by Galan007
Different origins.

Yes, I know JSA Gog was supposedly retconned into the same Gog Superman had encountered before(William Matthews), but that doesn't change the fact that their origins are still MUCH different.

Gog's origin in AC #825:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16360828/ac825_js_02.jpg.html

Gog's origin in JSA:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16360826/16-17.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16360827/18.jpg.html

Tack on the fact that Superman alone was able to one-shot the former, while the latter tooled the entire JSA, and the difference between their depicted powers becomes clear.

...Unless you believe Supes can one-shot a guy who was owning a JSA roster that included: KC Supes+Alan Scott+Obsidian+Power Girl+Amazing Man+Citizen Steel+Starman+Lightning+Jessi Quick. etc. etc..? Point: DC may have intended for them to be the same character, but they did a piss-poor job depicting them the same... Shit, they didn't even give them the same origin. srsly


That was explained as Gog hallucinating that origin of AC 825 as told in your own scans.

Well Kal-L did solo that whole team minus Amazing man plus Dr. Fate. Also Citizen steel owned Gog.

Superman oneshotted Earth-man with the power of whole Legion. He has done some ridiculous shit.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That was explained as Gog hallucinating that origin of AC 825 as told in your own scans.
Where is this stated?

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16360827/18.jpg.html

Second last panel is what I think he's referring to.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman oneshotted Earth-man with the power of whole Legion.

Are you allergic to context or does it just offend you?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16360827/18.jpg.html

Second last panel is what I think he's referring to.

ie. That scan/panel does not translate into Gog "hallucinating" his previously-established origin.

^Yeah. That appears to feel more flashbacky than hallucinatory.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
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Are you allergic to context or does it just offend you?

😂

I'll just post the scans so everyone can see the fight for themselves:

For the first half, Superman was powerless except for a Legion flight ring and regained his abilities when the Sun turned yellow. I have no idea how a simple flight ring allowed him to tussle with Earth Man like that but whatever.

Anyways, saying Superman just one shot Earth Man is very deceiving. Not that his durability was exactly spectacular without relying on Ultra Boys invulnerability.

Wwwwwoooowwwwww....ABHI lied about that all this time.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Technically speaking, Kal-L should win.

Bang on.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16360827/18.jpg.html

Second last panel is what I think he's referring to.

Are you allergic to context or does it just offend you?


Yeah, you are the one to talk about it.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

For the first half, Superman was powerless except for a Legion flight ring and regained his abilities when the Sun turned yellow. I have no idea how a simple flight ring allowed him to tussle with Earth Man like that but whatever.

Anyways, saying Superman just one shot Earth Man is very deceiving. Not that his durability was exactly spectacular without relying on Ultra Boys invulnerability.


Earth-Man had a very potent healing factor thanks to Chameleon girl. That coupled with durability from Ultra Boy and Blok (surprise, you forgot about him again) was the reason he was shrugging off everything. Superman did oneshot him or do you see only what you want to see.
Originally posted by carver9
Wwwwwoooowwwwww....ABHI lied about that all this time.

Lulz.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, you are the one to talk about it.
Earth-Man had a very potent healing factor thanks to Chameleon girl. That coupled with durability from Ultra Boy and Blok (surprise, you forgot about him again) was the reason he was shrugging off everything. Superman did oneshot him or do you see only what you want to see.
Lulz.

Shrugging off everything? He was getting beat up and the only time he shrugged off anything was with intangibility. Even powerless Superman was able to tussle with him. I'm not sure how Earth Man's powers stack but the only time he referenced invulnerability was when he used Ultra Boy's one power at a time only ability.

This is why I posted the scans. I'm not going to argue Superman one shotting Earth Man because anyone who knows what that term means already disagrees with you.

Originally posted by ares834
Kal-L stomps.

I don't know about stomps but yeah he should win.
But KC Supes is far more awesome.

Hell no! Kal-L all the way!

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Shrugging off everything? He was getting beat up and the only time he shrugged off anything was with intangibility. Even powerless Superman was able to tussle with him. I'm not sure how Earth Man's powers stack but the only time he referenced invulnerability was when he used Ultra Boy's one power at a time only ability.

This is why I posted the scans. I'm not going to argue Superman one shotting Earth Man because anyone who knows what that term means already disagrees with you.


Yes, shrugging off and knocking everybody out with one blast. That's the definition of team-buster. You mean when Superman had the legion ring and broke his hand punching Earth-man while Earth-man was manhandling him like a baby? Lulz.

Posting scans isn't everything.

Geez supes wins 😂