Fierce Deity Link vs. Safer Sephiroth

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Sorry, but what does that link do but describe a move we've already seen in the gameplay?

Sephiroth needed the Black Materia simply to wound the planet enough to bathe in the lifestream.

Him having that type of power on his own would make that necessity obsolete.

Supernova is a canon move, sure, but it does not have the power its visuals suggest. Sephiroth can't survive a supernova of his own creation when he's been damaged by less.

It is a canon description of the move, and it carries the creation of a Supernova and the destruction of half our system. Meteor was meant to wound the planet.

If he survived it is because of gameplay. AC Sephiroth is stronger than Chaos and Omega, really it is so difficult to believe that Sephiroth can do that?? Even when it is stated in source book (by TEXT!, not visuals)??

It's not simply gameplay, the supernova expands and swallows Sephiroth and he's ignoring it the entire time. Yes, Meteor was meant to wound the planet. If Sephiroth had so much power, he could have wounded the planet himself.

The whole point of the black materia was to summon a meteor large enough to significantly wound the planet. Now you're telling me he could summon one so large that he could one shot planets the whole time?

Originally posted by CosmicComet
It's not simply gameplay, the supernova expands and swallows Sephiroth and he's ignoring it the entire time. Yes, Meteor was meant to wound the planet. If Sephiroth had so much power, he could have wounded the planet himself.

The whole point of the black materia was to summon a meteor large enough to significantly wound the planet. Now you're telling me he could summon one so large that he could one shot planets the whole time?

I'm not telling you it, the Ultimania Guide is telling you it, and it is a source book written by the writers of the game. They could have described Octoslash or even Heartless Angel, but they describe Supernova... exactly as the animation depicts it.

Being able to create such meteor doesn't imply that he could have created one with a lesser degree of power by himself

It's describing a move we've already seen before.

Nothing special. It does not confirm sun-busting power, and in no way does it override the strict plot requirement that Sephiroth needed the meteor's power to significantly wound the planet. Sorry, but why can he only summon sun-busting meteors and not city sized meteors again? That's like, the very opposite of a no-limits fallacy.

What does he even need the lifestream for if he can bust the sun by itself, something the lifestream would not have the power to overcome--seeing as the shit barely beat a city sized meteor in conjuction with Holy.

It's a sham move.

I don't see how you can say the Lifestream barely beat meteor. Can you adequately judge the amount of effort it took? 🤨