Originally posted by psycho gundam
black adam's special power is the lack of pro BA scans he needs in 95% of black adam threads
If he can do that to a JL+ being, then he can do that to Thor.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/386/0004wrdtfv9.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/92/0004xpfwir7.jpg/If he can do that to a JL+ being, then he can do that to Thor.
Amazo always comes with a qualifier.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Probably a stalemate on average but Thor wins when push comes to shove. Just flat out more powerful.Ridiculous. You don't think Thor has even a small chance at beating Adam in close combat? Bunch of nonsense. Thor's physically more formidable then Adam with Mjolnir for the record. He'd beat Adam in a brawl with the hammer.
Easily debatable that Adam is stronger and he's not more durable or a better brawler.
Why wouldn't lightning work on Adam?
well you believe thor to be overall more powerful and i believe otherwise.
just because thor got more different abilities doesnt conclude overall power.
adam may have only physical attributes and lightning but i dont see thor being able to damage adam badly, nor do i see adam giving thor a chance to use his overall different powers on him, without adam being right in his face and forcing him to melee fight.
as for a brawl? i am not stating that black adam is much more physically superior to thor, however eventually he wins them all.
adam physically is stronger, he is faster and more durable than thor no doubt.
thor would easily fall to the things adam takes on average, i am not talking about high end feats i am talking about their standard.
thor is known to not have very good durability when it comes to brawling out.
also thor has no real skills aside of brawling, see fights vs tutinax, see fights with hulk, just plain and simple brawling.
adam is on another level as fighter and he is actually using fighting strategies.
the hammer is a buff but it never really made too much difference, watch 90% of thors melee fights they are alway done with his hammer and many of them he loses in the first place.
overall i dont see thor physically being able to put black adam down, however adam can do it.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What do you mean with the hammer? Yes, Thor beats Adam in a brawl with Mjolnir and would edge him out in a fight. That's how it'd go on average.If by the hammer you mean using his more powerful attacks and cutting loose? Then yes, Thor would wreck Adam's shit very thoroughly if he fought on that level.
now i get it, you are just extremely biased
Originally posted by wolverinos
well you believe thor to be overall more powerful and i believe otherwise.
just because thor got more different abilities doesnt conclude overall power.
adam may have only physical attributes and lightning but i dont see thor being able to damage adam badly, nor do i see adam giving thor a chance to use his overall different powers on him, without adam being right in his face and forcing him to melee fight.as for a brawl? i am not stating that black adam is much more physically superior to thor, however eventually he wins them all.
adam physically is stronger, he is faster and more durable than thor no doubt.
thor would easily fall to the things adam takes on average, i am not talking about high end feats i am talking about their standard.
thor is known to not have very good durability when it comes to brawling out.
also thor has no real skills aside of brawling, see fights vs tutinax, see fights with hulk, just plain and simple brawling.
adam is on another level as fighter and he is actually using fighting strategies.
the hammer is a buff but it never really made too much difference, watch 90% of thors melee fights they are alway done with his hammer and many of them he loses in the first place.overall i dont see thor physically being able to put black adam down, however adam can do it.
Browse a respect thread then. ODG has an excellent one on this board. I'm not going to enter a discussion with someone who thinks Thor's the equivalent of the Thing physically and he loses most of his fights.
You don't think he can damage Adam badly? He has poor durability when it comes brawling? What kind of ridiculous nonsense is that.
The idea that Adam is physically stronger and durable is very much debatable and far from conclusive. Thor's also displayed more skill in hand to hand then Adam has as far as I've seen. Definitely superior in power though.
Anyways, I advise you educate yourself before spouting nonsense. If you want, I can barrage you with scans I guess if you want. Ultimately we'll reach the same conclusion though.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Alright then.I think he's fine where he is. Thor going all out and busting his high end attacks is something very few Heralds if any can overcome. Not straight up.
It is debatable. Haven't you already learned not to come in and flaunt your opinions as facts?
Durability is even more disputable. Adam is more invulnerable (To piercing damage and such) I guess but that's irrelevant in a fight between the two. And his only possible advantage.
Adam is certainly more durable overall.
Tutinax was the Clubber Lang to Thor's Rocky.
He beat him down physically and verbally with taunts.
Except, there probably ain't gon' be no rematch. You can see Tutinax even whispering that in Thor's ear while he has him held down in their last encounter. "Ain't gon' be no rematch Thor, ain't gon' be no rematch."
What is it about Thor in particular that drives people into being so obsessed with his low showings? Even if his good ones overshadow them by far?
Helspont embarrassed Superman far worse but that shit rarely comes up for example. Last week the First Born made Wonder Woman/Orion his b*tches and I haven't even seen it mentioned.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Browse a respect thread then. ODG has an excellent one on this board. I'm not going to enter a discussion with someone who thinks Thor's the equivalent of the Thing physically and he loses most of his fights.You don't think he can damage Adam badly? He has poor durability when it comes brawling? What kind of ridiculous nonsense is that.
The idea that Adam is physically stronger and durable is very much debatable and far from conclusive. Thor's also displayed more skill in hand to hand then Adam has as far as I've seen. Definitely superior in power though.
Anyways, I advise you educate yourself before spouting nonsense. If you want, I can barrage you with scans I guess if you want. Ultimately we'll reach the same conclusion though.
of course with all the years thor has been on the market, plus a major hero he got tons of comics with showings, among those tons of comics there is no doubt in mind he got some crazy feats.
however the majority and the standard of his feats is not what you are trying to portray here.
yes, many brawling fights and specially withthe way thor is writen for the past years ,dont end up very well for him.
thor doesnt have the durability to match black adam as simple as that.
adam took an angry superman punches , took on half of DC heroes roster.
Thor will never be able to accomplish something like that.
hulk beats thor to pulp when the brawling extend.
the U foes took him down, in almost every brawl you see thor bleeding and low - mid heralds are able to hang with him perfectly fine.
this is not the case with black adam, black adam is a a totally different beast when it comes to brawling, i am sorry but please read both adam comics and thor comics without any biased opinion and understand the most obvious.
what? i am sorry what skills did thor present in H2H? he brawls out like the hulk or any other dumb brick.
what? when he kicked hercules in the balls? when he was human and showed some level of skills?
again black adam demonstrated dirty fighting techniques in most of his fights.
ripping off body parts, going for lethal spots in the physique, all those indicate a deep knowledge of fighting and will to utilize that on the field.
if thor was able to fight the way adam does, hulk tutinax and many others would go down within several blows.
you advice me to educate myself? i advice you to look at things in a non biased manner, because even if you read comics for years and got knowledge, being biased to this point makes you look like a novice.
and between you and me? we both know that A: the scans you can present are 1% among his entire showings.
B: 99.5% of the scans will be from the 70s or 80s , because we know very well thor is no longer what he was portrayed in the past for a very long time now.
