Spider-man vs Sabretooth

Originally posted by curryman
Need to calm yourself a bit. There's no need for mildly hostile posts.

Feel free to bring these high-ones that Spidey beat by purely trading hits, and we'll see who pulls home a consistently higher strength-level.

I'll begin by bringing in the Hulk, and waiting for you to pull out one from Creed's high-end PIS records that can match up to it. Trust me, it'll take quite a while for you to do so, as Creed practically has no feats even remotely comparable to the Hulk one, and this is just one of many that Spider has under his belt.

Which Hulk incident?

I know Spidey's fought him several times.

If it's the news-cast from the Gauntlet then you can safe yourself the trouble. I've seen it, and it ain't even close to "trading blows". And spare me any PIS-comments, you yourself just claimed you'd prove how Spidey's superior by way of slugfesting the Hulk.

The incident where he KO'd Savage Hulk.

It was a physical match-up. Parker overpowered him by way of pure physical strength. Considering how his classic trollish taunting actually makes the Hulk madder(and hence stronger), the feat is more impressive than it looks on the surface.

So you're going to discard your own rules in order to favor Creed over Parker? Let me guess you're going to pull off another rubbish excuse on why Parker's feats don't count, while Creed's does, in an argument that is centered around PIS-fueled feats. Got it.👆

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
The incident where he KO'd Savage Hulk.

It was a physical match-up. Parker overpowered him by way of pure physical strength. Considering how his classic trollish taunting actually makes the Hulk madder(and hence stronger), the feat is more impressive than it looks on the surface.

So you're going to discard your own rules in order to favor Creed over Parker? Let me guess you're going to pull off another rubbish excuse on why Parker's feats don't count, while Creed's does, in an argument that is centered around PIS-fueled feats. Got it.👆

Which incident are you talking about?

Because Spidey using fire-hydrants via his web is hardly a testament to his strength! Nor is it a purely physical matchup.

I wasn't saying your feat didn't count, I was simply saying that you shouldn't be trying to diminish my feats by way of PIS when you're using Spidey vs Hulk as a prime example. And was it your intent to play this by nothing more than high-feats? A contest where anyone who doesn't have their own title would obviously lose against Spidey.

I'm talking about consistency here, and Sabes taking it to Rogue and Ms.Marvel was hardly off-form, and this from a time when he was even weaker than he is now.

its always hard to tell with sabretooth as far as strength.
his best strength feats were during the 80's, feats such as knocking out rogue, tearing off car parts with his arms,being able to squash metal weights, and ripping a gang members arm off.
however he also got feats such as being overpowered and admitting being physical inferior to beast, wolverine ran him over with a jeep and sabretooth was lying under the jeep and couldnt even lift it off of him, the jeep weights 2 - 3 tons.
sabretooth is one of those characters which you just cant decide where to put as far as strength just like omega red and beast.
they all clearly more powerful than a human, but to what degree? i think they are all more or less in the same league of strength.
super human strength class 2 - 10

He did a number on beast during the Psylocke confrontation tho. Not to mention that bullshit-event where he's fighting and killing the Wendigo.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Spider-Man wins.

That's pretty consistent with Spidey these days...

That last scan is sick.

I don't see an average above Mrs.Marvel or Classic Rogue.

The one before that is even more insane. That's supposed to be carbonadium tentacles.

EDIT: I can post scans of Spider-man trading punches and even KOing chars in that weight class and above.

Didn't Spiderman blitz ko Absorbing man?

damn those are insane feats for spider man, never knew he was that physically strong.

Originally posted by SamZED

Wow that's as great a quantifiable strength feat for spidey you can find.

Spidey ftw.

Spidy via webbing incapacitation, or Sabretooth via anything else.

Originally posted by SamZED
Spidey's knocked out people and traded blows with stronger characters. Plus It was a surprise attack. IMO ST needs more and more consistent showings to place him above Spidey. Especially these days that Spider-man pulls class 50+ feats every other month. Not saying he's class 50, only that his strength level is better established than Sabertooth's.

*Thumbs up*

The term Spiderman vs Firelord exists because Spidey's kind of the poster child for competing well outside his weight class, given his supposed stats.

Well, him and Cap.. Maybe Batman too, looking at the Aquaman and Val Armorr fights.

Spidey wins.

Originally posted by cdtm
*Thumbs up*

The term Spiderman vs Firelord exists because Spidey's kind of the poster child for competing well outside his weight class, given his supposed stats.

Well, him and Cap.. Maybe Batman too, looking at the Aquaman and Val Armorr fights.

The term exists as the prime example of PIS 😐

Originally posted by curryman
Which incident are you talking about?

Because Spidey using fire-hydrants via his web is hardly a testament to his strength! Nor is it a purely physical matchup.

I wasn't saying your feat didn't count, I was simply saying that you shouldn't be trying to diminish my feats by way of PIS when you're using Spidey vs Hulk as a prime example. And was it your intent to play this by nothing more than high-feats? A contest where anyone who doesn't have their own title would obviously lose against Spidey.

I'm talking about consistency here, and Sabes taking it to Rogue and Ms.Marvel was hardly off-form, and this from a time when he was even weaker than he is now.

Then you're completely misunderstanding the crux of this argument. It's about comparing PIS feats with each other, and Spidey's are far better.

Going by this line of thinking, you might as well start claiming that Thor would easily bust up Superman, Silver Surfer or any other high herald for that matter, based on the number of times he's performed exceedingly well against skyfather and Abstract-tier beings. Although I have a hunch that you're going to dismiss all of those instances as PIS, something which doesn't apply to Sabretooth for some reason. /shrugs

Yes.

Spidey's PIS feats are far better.

I don't consider Sabretooth's fight with Rogue and Ms.Marvel to be PIS.