Sabertooth is not as strong as Ms. Marvel. Thing is - characters often hurt opponents that are way out of their weight class, that does not mean they're as strong physically. Wolverine beat up Roughhouse, yet I don't see him lifting a bus. Here's a scan of Spider-man oneshotKOing a class 90 Griffin:
He's got tons of those feats. Still doesn't make him Piotr Rasputin. Saying that Creed is around Mr. Marvel level of strength just because he can trade blows with her is farfetched considering that on average he's depicted around class 10 tops. And he lacks lifting feats to make an argument that he's stronger. Pete on average is stronger.
Originally posted by currymanWhy "also"? Srank wasn't talking to me. I never even mentioned Beast.
You might also want to reread Wolverine's fight with Roughouse, because he struggled a lot before he started using his blades...
Wolverine traded blows with him and hurt him. That's the point. Also it's just a random example that popped into my head, there are thousands of them in comics. Hurting someone with hits =/= being equelly strong.
Originally posted by SamZED
Sabertooth is not as strong as Ms. Marvel. Thing is - characters often hurt opponents that are way out of their weight class, that does not mean they're as strong physically. Wolverine beat up Roughhouse, yet I don't see him lifting a bus. Here's a scan of Spider-man oneshotKOing a class 90 Griffin:He's got tons of those feats. Still doesn't make him Piotr Rasputin. Saying that Creed is around Mr. Marvel level of strength just because he can trade blows with her is farfetched considering that on average he's depicted around class 10 tops. And he lacks lifting feats to make an argument that he's stronger. Pete on average is stronger.
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Originally posted by SamZED
Why "also"? Srank wasn't talking to me. I never even mentioned Beast.Wolverine traded blows with him and hurt him. That's the point. Also it's just a random example that popped into my head, there are thousands of them in comics. Hurting someone with hits =/= being equelly strong.
Traded blows with Roughouse and hurt him?
I can only think of one incident where Wolverine straight up beat him with his fists, other than that his punches generally don't affect him that much.
I don't disagree with your claim that fighting someone generally doesn't indicate that they're equally strong, but look at Sabretooth's fights...
Originally posted by currymanIt's been awhile but Im positive Wolverine hurt him several times with his hits.
Traded blows with Roughouse and hurt him?I can only think of one incident where Wolverine straight up beat him with his fists, other than that his punches generally don't affect him that much.
I don't disagree with your claim that fighting someone generally doesn't indicate that they're equally strong, but look at Sabretooth's fights...
Originally posted by SamZED
It's been awhile but Im positive Wolverine hurt him several times with his hits.
It doesn't matter much tho, even if Spidey happened to be stronger than Sabretooth, Sabretooth could easily hang with him, given how he hangs with people who are on average, stronger than Spider-Man.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Wolverine beat Abomination with fists. He's class 100 now.
Originally posted by curryman
The first time Roughouse started laughing. I've only read four of their fights, might be missing one or two.It doesn't matter much tho, even if Spidey happened to be stronger than Sabretooth, Sabretooth could easily hang with him, given how he hangs with people who are on average, stronger than Spider-man.
