Who is the Ultime Brawler???
i think its time we make up our mind, who is the ultimate brawler in the comics universe?
i wont make a list because maybe you guys know someone i dont know.
pick up anyone from any comics, but remember its only brawling no powers.
guys like Hulk(any version)
superman (any version)
Thor(any version) atc atc...
so lets see now who is the comics universe Ultimate Brawler!!!
I think we'd have to give this to Hulk, because it's pretty much all he does. He's basically the upper limit on the one-trick-pony brawler archetype. Even if some others routinely brawl (Thor, for example), he has way too many powers to only be considered a brawler.
If we limit it to only brawling, then yes, some abstract wins and this thread loses meaning.
Originally posted by Digi
I think we'd have to give this to Hulk, because it's pretty much all he does. He's basically the upper limit on the one-trick-pony brawler archetype. Even if some others routinely brawl (Thor, for example), he has way too many powers to only be considered a brawler.If we limit it to only brawling, then yes, some abstract wins and this thread loses meaning.
well what i meant to create was a thread only about brawling, now the thing is guys like thor that have other powers can participate as well, however its only brawling and no powers which means no amping as well.
i mean even guys like odin cant dominate this, because odin without his odin force Amp cant compete with the top notch brawlers.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
yesNo
maybe i am not the ultimate source for comics, and i dont know everything there is about comics or characters.
but i do believe that guys such as Trion juggernaut, GA SBP, or WBH will preety much rape galactus hard in a brawl.
galactus without his shields and energy blasting is no all that, only physically? thing was able to put galactus on his ass.
in an only physical brawl galactus cant stand to the high caliber guys
Originally posted by the Darkone
Lobo, Hulk, Thor, Hercules, Validus, Superman, Orion, Kalibak, Beta Ray Bill, Juggernaut...these are the premier brawlers in comics
yeah and there are many more and many versions of them.
however who do you think is the ultimate one? the toughest and strongest brawler of them all? you can use any version of anyone, even from different storylines, what ever you want.
Originally posted by wolverinosyour first sentence was true
maybe i am not the ultimate source for comics, and i dont know everything there is about comics or characters.
but i do believe that guys such as Trion juggernaut, GA SBP, or WBH will preety much rape galactus hard in a brawl.
galactus without his shields and energy blasting is no all that, only physically? thing was able to put galactus on his ass.
in an only physical brawl galactus cant stand to the high caliber guys
You should have stuck with that. Although funny how you state Galactus can't amp (because he ever amps besides when he eats...), but you only name characters who achieved their level via massive amping
Galactus tore a Celestial in half physically. None of those characters come close
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
your first sentence was trueYou should have stuck with that. Although funny how you state Galactus can't amp (because he ever amps besides when he eats...), but you only name characters who achieved their level via massive amping
Galactus tore a Celestial in half physically. None of those characters come close
i stated galactus cant use his other powers aside opf his physical ones.
i named characters who achieved their power via amp but they dont need keep amping in order to keep it.
superboy prime got the guardian amp however that created a whole new character which is GA SBP.
that character is a character on his own and doesnt need further amping to keep himself that way.
galactus physically is strong, but if he goes up against lets say WBH he will get his sh** pushed in physically.
even if physically he is stronger than WBH hypothetically, WBH will be faster than him and WBH has more than enough strength to break his head off with his punches.
its not about who is stronger, its about who is the best brawler and who can beat everybody else in a brawl.
only physically brawling, galactus easily falls to guy such as WBH, GA Prime, Trion Juggernaut, PC Superman, Pc darkeid, PC validus, and i am sure there are more
Originally posted by the Darkone
Galactus is physically stronger and more powerful than WBHulk, cosmic beings are on another level physically,your saying WBH can beat being who tore a Celestial in half, but you think that Galactus cant beat WBH 😑, weird?!
as i explained there are many factors comming into this.
lets say galactus is physically stronger.
we both agree WBH can damage him? good.
we both agree WBH is faster than galactus and galactus will have some trouble hitting WBH because of his size? good.
galactus is a one huge target for WBH, i honestly see hulk busting his knee cap, galactus fall on his other knee trying to hit hulk with no success, even if he is able to hit WBH so what? hulk will be right back tearing galactus apart, blasting him with punches.
as you can see there are many factors comming into a fight, strength alone is a minor factor.
Originally posted by wolverinos
well what i meant to create was a thread only about brawling, now the thing is guys like thor that have other powers can participate as well, however its only brawling and no powers which means no amping as well.
i mean even guys like odin cant dominate this, because odin without his odin force Amp cant compete with the top notch brawlers.
A poison Odin one shot KO Ulik who always brawls with Thor, Odin has b***h slap Thor with the greatest of ease, when Odin amps it has to be serious fighting like Surtur who is amp or using artifactss he doesn't do it when he fights beings of Thor class tier. Zeus in teach the Avengers a lesson was rage stomping them, and nearly killed Hercules in the process and he wasn't amping. Only time we saw a sky father amping against a herald level character it was against Hulk, and Zeus was teaching him lesson/proving a point. It has to be taken in context
Sky Fathers are on anther level of power
1) Galactus isn't a physical being as such, he's more like sentient energy.
2) Galactus has absolute control over his energies and can appear whatever size/shape/density he wants.
There's no conceivable way WBH could "hurt" a healthy Galactus. The only way he could hurt Galactus at all would be with 1) Galactus being extremely hungry and weak and 2) PIS of the highest order - almost as bad as Thor's godblast hurting a hungry Galactus.
If you limit it to non-cosmics, I do think Hulk would prove the "ultimate brawler", just limitless energy, stamina, strength and a healing factor that makes him immortal.
Originally posted by the Darkone
A poison Odin one shot KO Ulik who always brawls with Thor, Odin has b***h slap Thor with the greatest of ease, when Odin amps it has to be serious fighting like Surtur who is amp or using artifactss he doesn't do it when he fights beings of Thor class tier. Zeus in teach the Avengers a lesson was rage stomping them, and nearly killed Hercules in the process and he wasn't amping. Only time we saw a sky father amping against a herald level character it was against Hulk, and Zeus was teaching him lesson/proving a point. It has to be taken in contextSky Fathers are on anther level of power
base level thor is a nobody to the big guns of brawling.
as to be honest lets not forget thor putting his dady on his ass with a strike.
and if you are bringing zeus into this, lets remind she hulk and namor putting him on his ass.
skyfathers without amping themselves with their magic are not all that, they get a competition from heralds easily.
odin when fighting thanos couldnt free his trident with both his hands while thanos was holding it with only one.
and thanos is not too well known for his physical strength.
if you are even trying to imply that guys like odin or zeus can take it without amping you are deadly wrong.
Originally posted by wolverinos
as i explained there are many factors comming into this.
lets say galactus is physically stronger.
we both agree WBH can damage him? good.
we both agree WBH is faster than galactus and galactus will have some trouble hitting WBH because of his size? good.
galactus is a one huge target for WBH, i honestly see hulk busting his knee cap, galactus fall on his other knee trying to hit hulk with no success, even if he is able to hit WBH so what? hulk will be right back tearing galactus apart, blasting him with punches.
as you can see there are many factors comming into a fight, strength alone is a minor factor.
I wasn't agreeing with you about WBH harming Galactus have you lost your mind, and you are speculating. Last time Galactus was in brawl before the Celestial, it was against Inbetweener and they were hitting each other that they we were colliding into planets. Galactus fought Odin, and Odin had to amp and he head butted Galactus KO himself in the process while Galactus restored himself.
WBH is no where near high end sky father level low maybe in strength, that doesn't mean he can fight a being like Galactus who has tag Silver Surfer, Thor physically if he so chooses. Galactus would hit WBH so hard that he scatters WBH atoms.
Originally posted by janus77
1) Galactus isn't a physical being as such, he's more like sentient energy.2) Galactus has absolute control over his energies and can appear whatever size/shape/density he wants.
There's no conceivable way WBH could "hurt" a healthy Galactus. The only way he could hurt Galactus at all would be with 1) Galactus being extremely hungry and weak and 2) PIS of the highest order - almost as bad as Thor's godblast hurting a hungry Galactus.
If you limit it to non-cosmics, I do think Hulk would prove the "ultimate brawler", just limitless energy, stamina, strength and a healing factor that makes him immortal.
you think hulk can take on GA SBP? or Trion juggernaut? or PC Superman?
Originally posted by wolverinos
base level thor is a nobody to the big guns of brawling.as to be honest lets not forget thor putting his dady on his ass with a strike.
and if you are bringing zeus into this, lets remind she hulk and namor putting him on his ass.
skyfathers without amping themselves with their magic are not all that, they get a competition from heralds easily.
odin when fighting thanos couldnt free his trident with both his hands while thanos was holding it with only one.
and thanos is not too well known for his physical strength.if you are even trying to imply that guys like odin or zeus can take it without amping you are deadly wrong.
Context and they still got their a$$ kicked by Zeus, your point is what?? Thor has put Odin on his a$$ couple times does that mean he can beat his father...hell phucking no!? If Sky father of Odin and Zeus level wants to get really serious it wont end well.
Like what Janus said:
1) Galactus isn't a physical being as such, he's more like sentient energy.
2) Galactus has absolute control over his energies and can appear whatever size/shape/density he wants.
There's no conceivable way WBH could "hurt" a healthy Galactus. The only way he could hurt Galactus at all would be with 1) Galactus being extremely hungry and weak and 2) PIS of the highest order - almost as bad as Thor's godblast hurting a hungry Galactus.