And I'm asking how Kenobi won in combat? He can only be said to have defeated Maul, because Maul decided to flee. But there were other factors involved in that decision. Probably saving Opress was a big factor.
But I still think Maul knocking Kenobi down like that has more meaning in terms of the combat than Filoni simply saying "Kenobi won."
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
If Opress continued the assault on them after they are flattened, it kind of puts them in a disadvantageous position does it not?Especially when people are claiming Fisto beat Grievous just because he was on the floor one time. Opress's flattening of Skywalker and Kenobi was more convinving a put down.
They were on the ground... And got up quickly enough. I'm not denying that Savage had gained a temporary advantage, but it wasn't enough to say he was winning.
And no, Fisto did not beat Grievous.
Originally posted by ROTJ Vader
Honestly what did Filoni say on this matter!. Someone post the quote you guys are using to say Kenobi>Brothers.
He never even said Kenobi > Brothers. Just that Kenobi wasn't going to lose in THAT FIGHT and THAT SITUATION.
But he also admitted Kenobi lost to Maul in the episode prior, because Ventress and Kenobi were going to Lose THAT FIGHT in THAT SITUATION.
So it's all about context.
Heck in the same damn episode Kenobi couldn't defeat Maul in a one one just minuted earlier.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
He never even said Kenobi > Brothers. Just that Kenobi wasn't going to lose in THAT FIGHT and THAT SITUATION.But he also admitted Kenobi lost to Maul in the episode prior, because Ventress and Kenobi were going to Lose THAT FIGHT in THAT SITUATION.
So it's all about context.
Heck in the same damn episode Kenobi couldn't defeat Maul in a one one just minuted earlier.
Oh okay. Obviously Brothers>>>>Kenobi I was just asking for the quote they were using to say Kenobi "won". Which isint true. If you saw my posts on this topic you would know I say Maul>>Kenobi.
And you're wrong. Kenobi won as evident by the fact that the brothers ran from him with their tails between their legs and Filoni's quotes on the matter.
And Maul>>Kenobi is pretty humorous as well. Maul may be a bit more powerful, but there certainly isn't a massive discrepancy between the two.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Heck in the same damn episode Kenobicouldn'tdidn't defeat Maul in a one one just minuted earlier.
Fixed that for you.
Originally posted by ROTJ Vader
Honestly what did Filoni say on this matter!. Someone post the quote you guys are using to say Kenobi>Brothers.
I think it was a Q and A and someone asked him why Kenobi was able to beat them and he said something like that Kenobi was inspired by Adi Gallia's dead and was really focused so he 'wasn't going to lose in that situation.' The guy who voiced Maul said that he thought it was more of a tie than Kenobi winning and Filoni flat out said no to that.
Found it:
Around the 18 minute mark.
Originally posted by ares834
And you're wrong. Kenobi won as evident by the fact that the brothers ran from him with their tails between their legs and Filoni's quotes on the matter.
Your saying Maul was running because he was scared of a Kenobi who was lying on his ass weaponless? He was running because he failed to defeat Kenobi and Opress was wounded, and the whole situation was looking bad "Come brother, this plan has failed."
Originally posted by ares834
And Maul>>Kenobi is pretty humorous as well. Maul may be a bit more powerful, but there certainly isn't a massive discrepancy between the two.
Whose saying Maul >> Kenobi. That's obviously over the top after Kenobi fought them both off and at least defeated one of them.
^ They've had 2 one on ones. Maul starting winning the first one after a while, although Kenobi did have a chance to finish him off there but chose to help Ventress instead.
The second fight he couldn't penetrate Kenobi's defenses in a fiarly long battle. Then there's the one where Kenobi fought off both brothers.
Son where exactly are you getting that Maul >> Kenobi?
His Force TK seems to be more powerful, but not to the extent where he can just beat him with it anytime.
^ They've had 2 one on ones. Maul starting winning the first one after a while, although Kenobi did have a chance to finish him off there but chose to help Ventress instead.
Maul dominated there first 1v1.
The second fight he couldn't penetrate Kenobi's defenses in a fiarly long battle. Then there's the one where Kenobi fought off both brothers.
Someone said Maul was holding back in sabers. Is this true?.
Son where exactly are you getting that Maul >> Kenobi?
Maul is mad close to Dooku/Windu/Vader who all would trash Kenobi. Also Maul has beaten Kenobi or stalemated him in all there fights.
His Force TK seems to be more powerful, but not to the extent where he can just beat him with it anytime.
He did in the cave. If there even in sabers or Maul slightly better(people say Maul held back in the novel/wasint trying to kill Kenobi) and Maul>>>>Kenobi with the force(clearly, then Maul>>Kenobi.
Originally posted by ares834
I've never seen any proof that Maul was holding back against Kenobi.Anyway, the one time Maul was winning Kenobi had just endured a brutal beating. Clearly he wasn't operating at peak capacity there.
Well even if Maul held back Vs Kenobi he would still be going full out because just because you dont want to kill someone dosint mean you would pull your punches(for example you would be trying your hardest to make them yield). So that was a bad point for me to make.
Hardly. Savage just kicked him a few times. Kenobi also got pwned by Savage.
ares834
And you're wrong. Kenobi won as evident by the fact that the brothers ran from him with their tails between their legs and Filoni's quotes on the matter.
So then you'd agree that Sidious won the fight in the Rotunda, since Yoda ran from him with his tail between his legs and every source indicates as much on the matter?