CW Mace Windu & CW Obi Wan Kenobi Vs Darth Maul & Savage Opress

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Let's not ignore that Maul killed Qui-Gon with hardly any trouble, the same Qui-Gon who was Kenobi's superior (in fact, Maul was superior to both of them).

Let's ignore that Maul had the HIGHER GROUND (we all know the big deal that is) and a weapon and Kenobi was on lower ground.. just hanging by his arms with no weapon and was able to cut down Maul as a PADAWAN. Doesn't get much more of a tooling than that. Kenobi has the most decisive victory over maul. PERIOD>

His victory is not denied; his superiority is, however.

Obi-Wan had an extra saber lying near the corpse of his apparently more powerful Master. Were it not for that, he would've fallen off hopelessly.

cutting somebody in half certainly shows your superior more than it doesn't. You can't be this obtuse. Getting cut in half while on higher ground by somebody on lower ground and disarmed shows greater superiority?

The circumstances were fairly different. Imagine--were it not for Qui-Gon's saber, it was only a matter of time before Maul sliced that nub off the pit and Obi-Wan ended up the crazy one on Lotho Minor.

No Maul Die Because He Suck.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
cutting somebody in half certainly shows your superior more than it doesn't. You can't be this obtuse. Getting cut in half while on higher ground by somebody on lower ground and disarmed shows greater superiority?

Wait, do you even know how Kenobi ended down there?

you didn't answer my question first.. so getting cut in half while armed and on higher ground by somebody unarmed shows superiority?

Momentary advantages mean very little.. it's who carries that day that matters. We see this all the time in every sport around.. MMA... Boxing... Football... Mcgirt scoring the only kd of the fight early in the fight (gaining an advantage at that point) didn't stop Pea from dominating and winning the fight after. You knew better than this. Do you enjoy taking the site of the person who gets tooled and using your oncjecture to explain it away?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
you didn't answer my question first.. so getting cut in half while armed and on higher ground by somebody unarmed shows superiority?

Maul didn't know Kenobi had a weapon to cut him with, so it was a surprise attack is all. Let's not get ridiculous claiming TPM Kenobi proved he was >>>>> Maul with that jump. If that was the case he would have blitz Maul right at the beginning of the fight.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Momentary advantages mean very little.. it's who carries that day that matters. We see this all the time in every sport around.. MMA... Boxing... Football... Mcgirt scoring the only kd of the fight early in the fight (gaining an advantage at that point) didn't stop Pea from dominating and winning the fight after. You knew better than this. Do you enjoy taking the site of the person who gets tooled and using your oncjecture to explain it away?

It was a joint effort KT. Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon together fought and defeated Maul. Just because Qui-Gon died first and Obi-Wan did the finishing move doesn't change that fact. Obi-Wan clearly would not have lasted long at all if he never had Qui-Gon's help and faced Maul alone from the beginning.

Are WE SERIOUSLY debating TPM Maul Vs TPM Kenobi?. Its pretty ****ing obvious Maul is far stronger.

Seriously?.

Far stronger?

Eh...

Originally posted by Nephthys
Far stronger?

Eh...

Yes.

Qui Gon was stated to be above TPM Kenobi.

Maul tooled Qui Gon in 30seconds with a broken ankel.

We also see S4 Maul whos equal to TPM(!) Maul defeat a far stronger verson of Kenobi and throw him around with the force a bit.

So yes, it is safe to say TPM Maul>>>>>>TPM Kenobi.

Where is it mentioned that S4 Maul is equal to TPM Maul?

Originally posted by ares834
Where is it mentioned that S4 Maul is equal to TPM Maul?

Nowhere I know of.

Originally posted by ROTJ Vader

The meaning is vague and Savage notes that Maul's hatred made him more powerful in Revival.

Originally posted by ROTJ Vader
Yes.

Qui Gon was stated to be above TPM Kenobi.

Maul tooled Qui Gon in 30seconds with a broken ankel.

We also see S4 Maul whos equal to TPM(!) Maul defeat a far stronger verson of Kenobi and throw him around with the force a bit.

So yes, it is safe to say TPM Maul>>>>>>TPM Kenobi.

Yeah, and we also see a season 5 Kenobi tool Maul and his brother at the same time. Plus, in their fight in season 4 Kenobi was beat up before hand, and Filoni still declared that they were stalemating (though Kenobi would eventually lose).

Originally posted by Nephthys
Yeah, and we also see a season 5 Kenobi tool Maul and his brother at the same time. Plus, in their fight in season 4 Kenobi was beat up before hand, and Filoni still declared that they were stalemating (though Kenobi would eventually lose).

Well Maul had just gotten his power back and hadint used a saber in years so he was proabably much worse then he was in TPM with a saber and he tooled Kenobi. And I wouldint mention there Season 5 fight. Simply because Savage beat Anakin/Kenobi twice and pwned Kenobi once 1v1.

Why? Because it utterly ruins your argument?