Originally posted by quanchi112Kurse can't fly nor is he very fast. Thus has no counter against being bfred. What great heat resisting feats does Kurse have? If none then Superman can do some good damage with HV.
support your argument. If you can't you are going to hear two infamous words.
Originally posted by h1a8Thor's power has hurt Galactus yet he can't beat Kurse. Superman does not routinely bfr or fight in this manner. Superman typically slugs it out with bricks. That is how he fights in character.
Kurse can't fly nor is he very fast. Thus has no counter against being bfred. What great heat resisting feats does Kurse have? If none then Superman can do some good damage with HV.
Also this Superman's strength has been shown to be planetary. If Superman operates with anything close to that strength then he would stomp the shit out of Kurse.
Prove it.
Originally posted by quanchi112Thor hurting Galactus in one comic has nothing to do with Thor in another comic. The same as Superman tanking a black hole or supernova has nothing to do with Superman getting koed by a gas station. gladiator doesnt always punch with planet destroying force in a comic.
Thor's power has hurt Galactus yet he can't beat Kurse. Superman does not routinely bfr or fight in this manner. Superman typically slugs it out with bricks. That is how he fights in character.Prove it.
Superman doesn't have to routinely bfr in order to do it. Superman doesn't usually lose and has no need to bfr. If he felt he needed to then he could. Superman always would have that option he can employ at anytime. Doesn't mean he would do it right away.
Originally posted by h1a8You just shit all over your own case. They fight in character or else this is just powerset debating and it isn't Superman or Kurse.
Thor hurting Galactus in one comic has nothing to do with Thor in another comic. The same as Superman tanking a black hole or supernova has nothing to do with Superman getting koed by a gas station. gladiator doesnt always punch with planet destroying force in a comic.Superman doesn't have to routinely bfr in order to do it. Superman doesn't usually lose and has no need to bfr. If he felt he needed to then he could. Superman always would have that option he can employ at anytime. Doesn't mean he would do it right away.
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Originally posted by quanchi112no I didn't. I never claimed superman would purposely attempt to bfr Kurse right away. He reserves the option in case he needs it later. In other words, either Superman beats the shit out of Kurse or he eventually Bfrs him.
You just shit all over your own case. They fight in character or else this is just powerset debating and it isn't Superman or Kurse.🙂
Originally posted by h1a8
Thor hurting Galactus in one comic has nothing to do with Thor in another comic. The same as Superman tanking a black hole or supernova has nothing to do with Superman getting koed by a gas station. gladiator doesnt always punch with planet destroying force in a comic.Superman doesn't have to routinely bfr in order to do it. Superman doesn't usually lose and has no need to bfr. If he felt he needed to then he could. Superman always would have that option he can employ at anytime. Doesn't mean he would do it right away.
You don't get to pick and choose where a character power level is at during a fight. Stop negleting one showing and accepting whatever showing you want to accept as fact.
Originally posted by h1a8
no I didn't. I never claimed superman would purposely attempt to bfr Kurse right away. He reserves the option in case he needs it later. In other words, either Superman beats the shit out of Kurse or he eventually Bfrs him.
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I don't think your post fall under the 15 minute rule for editing like ours. Look like you made a mistake and quoted the wrong person...you meant to quote this guy.
Just letting you know so that you can edited your post.
Originally posted by carver9
Pr...I don't think your post fall under the 15 minute rule for editing like ours. Look like you made a mistake and quoted the wrong person...you meant to quote this guy.
Just letting you know so that you can edited your post.
Don't push it, carter.
And no, mods have no limit on editing posts.
I could even edit yours if I wanted.
Originally posted by carver9
You don't get to pick and choose where a character power level is at during a fight. Stop negleting one showing and accepting whatever showing you want to accept as fact.
Of course we do, otherwise why even mention a comic fight or feat? What relevance is mentioning X going toe to toe with Y if you are not assuming a power level?
Bottomline: In comics, character's power levels fluctuate. Yet some assume in every showing that the character's power level is always the same.
Now again, either Superman beats the shit out of Kurse (if he has his high end strength here) or he eventually bfrs him. Easy logic.
Originally posted by h1a8
Of course we do, otherwise why even mention a comic fight or feat? What relevance is mentioning X going toe to toe with Y if you are not assuming a power level?Bottomline: In comics, character's power levels fluctuate. Yet some assume in every showing that the character's power level is always the same.
Now again, either Superman beats the shit out of Kurse (if he has his high end strength here) or he eventually bfrs him. Easy logic.
We go by average showings, not "pick and choose whatever you want" showings. You tend to dismiss whatever ft you want while applying calculation to a character to make him look more impressive (lol). If you can't accept all for one character, then don't do it for the other.
Originally posted by carver9Carv you know you changed the subject right? you know there is a difference between forum power level and comic power level. Our argument is about comic power level (not forum ones).
We go by average showings, not "pick and choose whatever you want" showings. You tend to dismiss whatever ft you want while applying calculation to a character to make him look more impressive (lol). If you can't accept all for one character, then don't do it for the other.
For example, you can't say Gladiator was operating at planet busting level in his fight with Colossus.
Originally posted by h1a8
Carv you know you changed the subject right? you know there is a difference between forum power level and comic power level. Our argument is about comic power level (not forum ones).For example, you can't say Gladiator was operating at planet busting level in his fight with Colossus.
Why would I think he was going at planet busting levels against Colossus when we know he was holding back?
I'm not changing the subject, I want you to stop ignoring showings from one character while accepting nothing but highs from the other. You bringing up Kurse loss doesn't help against Clark lows since his is MUCH worse.
That's like me saying "since Batman amped off Bane venom busted Superman lip, a punch from Kurse would take his head clean off".
Going by average portrayal from both characters, Kurse stomps.
Originally posted by carver9lol you lost it. You are confusing me with someone else.
Why would I think he was going at planet busting levels against Colossus when we know he was holding back?I'm not changing the subject, I want you to stop ignoring showings from one character while accepting nothing but highs from the other. You bringing up Kurse loss doesn't help against Clark lows since his is MUCH worse.
That's like me saying "since Batman amped off Bane venom busted Superman lip, a punch from Kurse would take his head clean off".
Going by average portrayal from both characters, Kurse stomps.
I'll repost the conversation to get you up to speed:
Quan posted this
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor's power has hurt Galactus yet he can't beat Kurse. Superman does not routinely bfr or fight in this manner. Superman typically slugs it out with bricks. That is how he fights in character.Prove it.
I posted this to show that Thor hurting Galactus in one comic doesn't mean he is at the same power level in another comic (Kurse comic)
Originally posted by h1a8
Thor hurting Galactus in one comic has nothing to do with Thor in another comic. The same as Superman tanking a black hole or supernova has nothing to do with Superman getting koed by a gas station. gladiator doesnt always punch with planet destroying force in a comic.Superman doesn't have to routinely bfr in order to do it. Superman doesn't usually lose and has no need to bfr. If he felt he needed to then he could. Superman always would have that option he can employ at anytime. Doesn't mean he would do it right away.
You then chimed in (without understanding me and Quan's debate) with
Originally posted by carver9
You don't get to pick and choose where a character power level is at during a fight. Stop negleting one showing and accepting whatever showing you want to accept as fact.
So when you said, "...during a fight." You mean a forum fight. But me and Quan was talking about fights that happen in comics (not a forum fight).
Again, either Superman beats him up or he bfr him (if he can't beat him up). Either way Superman wins.