DCNU Superman VS Kurse

Started by Branlor Swift8 pages

Originally posted by carver9
Why would I think he was going at planet busting levels against Colossus when we know he was holding back?
Didn't Gladiator destroy the planet like an issue before he fought Gladiator, or in the same arc?

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Didn't Gladiator destroy the planet like an issue before he fought Gladiator, or in the same arc?
Gladiator didn't fight himself, you big dumb oaf.

Originally posted by Mindset
Gladiator didn't fight himself, you big dumb oaf.
He pretty much did. Colossus was the ultimate Gladiator at that point in time. 3 times as strong as Superman.

Kurse wins

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Didn't Gladiator destroy the planet like an issue before he fought Gladiator, or in the same arc?

Yeah. 😕

Around that time, he also survived a solar system destroying blast. Swam through a gas giant and moved 100 times the speed of light.

Originally posted by h1a8
Kurse can't fly nor is he very fast. Thus has no counter against being bfred. What great heat resisting feats does Kurse have? If none then Superman can do some good damage with HV.
Also this Superman's strength has been shown to be planetary. If Superman operates with anything close to that strength then he would stomp the shit out of Kurse.

Yet Kurse has handled the hammer brothers simultaneously .

Originally posted by Don Corleone
Yet Kurse has handled the hammer brothers simultaneously .

The hammer brothers didn't use high end Superman level strength or speed or try to bfr him.

Again, Superman either beats him down or bfr him if he can't.

Originally posted by h1a8
The hammer brothers didn't use high end Superman level strength or speed or try to bfr him.

Again, Superman either beats him down or bfr him if he can't.

Yeah, you're right I think Thor was using 30 % and Bill was using 54 % of their capabilities.

Originally posted by Don Corleone
Yeah, you're right I think Thor was using LESS THAN 30 % and Bill was using LESS THAN 54 % of their FULL capabilities and HIGH END FEATS power level.
I corrected your post slightly.

Same as with Gladiator. He's didn't hit Colossus with 1% of his planet busting power. Otherwise, Colossus would have been killed instantly or the planet in which they fought on rocked.

Superman getting koed by gas station proves that he wasn't operating at 1% of his top power either.

Originally posted by h1a8
Same as with Gladiator. He's didn't hit Colossus with 1% of his planet busting power. Otherwise, Colossus would have been killed instantly or the planet in which they fought on rocked.

Superman getting koed by gas station proves that he wasn't operating at 1% of his top power either.


Was Gladiator even a confirmed planet buster at this point? If this is the fight from the DP saga that was his 1st appearance (arc) iirc. He was even ko'd by Corsair of the Starjammers.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Was Gladiator even a confirmed planet buster at this point? If this is the fight from the DP saga that was his 1st appearance (arc) iirc. He was even ko'd by Corsair of the Starjammers.

Gladiator's creation was intended to be that of a Superman clone. Meaning, the fight was created for fans to see how a fight of Colossus vs. Superman would go down.

But canon is canon right? Gladiator did bust that planet. But he didn't hit Colossus or anyone afterward with 1% of that power.

He wasn't serious during that fight either.

Originally posted by carver9
He wasn't serious during that fight either.

He also wasn't serious during almost every fight after the planet busting feat either. Maybe he is more like Superman than we think (holds back out of fear of killing)...

Nawww!

Originally posted by h1a8
Gladiator's creation was intended to be that of a Superman clone. Meaning, the fight was created for fans to see how a fight of Colossus vs. Superman would go down.

But canon is canon right? Gladiator did bust that planet. But he didn't hit Colossus or anyone afterward with 1% of that power.


Thor was created to be stronger than Hulk yet was never shown to be on panel, unless Gladiator actually showed planet destroying strength at that point it was just two strong bricks going at it, so your example falls flat.

It was John Bryne who revamped Gladiator and established him as an elite brick capable of operating on a planetary scale.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
It was John Bryne who revamped Gladiator and established him as an elite brick capable of operating on a planetary scale.

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H1 is wrong as usual.

It's been a while since I've checked the dates but John Bryne wrote him as a homage to Pre-Crisis Superman in 1982. Although he and the Guard were based on the Legion. Gladiator was created as a Superboy tribute.

Fun fact, all of Gladiator's lowest showings were written by Claremont such as the fight with Colossus, Jahf beating his ass and Corsair one shotting him with his pistol (Pre-Bryne). As a matter of fact, even years later, he had Gladiator knocked out by Gambit's deck of cards.

Kind of weird now that I think about it. I wonder how Claremont felt Gladiator stacked up to elite strong men like Thor/Hulk. Would he have portrayed him as a peer or an underdog like Colossus?

Gladiator is a homage to Mon-El actually.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Gladiator is a homage to Mon-El actually.
KAL-LARK is a combo of clark and kal-el. Not Mon-EL.

Originally posted by JBL
KAL-LARK is a combo of clark and kal-el. Not Mon-EL.

His name was revealed much later. His costume is designed on Mon-El's costume.