Originally posted by pym-ftw
Vader can give the saber to Batman and still win with ease
This. Jedi are way more haxx than some people realize, at least the good ones. Any Knight is, at minimum, low meta based on our power scales. Most are squarely in high meta, with a range of telepathic and telekinetic powers.
Originally posted by SevenShacklesyep, vaders helmet is metal, so is the handle of his lightsaber, first second in and vaders helmet is crushed into his skull, maybe obi wan, or a younger vader or luke, (someone that wears a metal helmet haha the best matchup would be yoda vs magneto
As in magneto..? That would be a rape in favor of magneto.
yeah, mags would NOT be vader's best match up. i guess we could posit that his tk could somehow resist the helmet crush, and maybe his tk could keep his saber on his hip, but mags has some crazy multi-tasking feats that i don't think vader could touch..... we'd also have to assume his tk is a match for mag's em control and THAT is a stretch to say the least. best case for vader, he avoids skull crushing, keeps saber but while he is focused on doing those things, mags drives a metal stake through his armor and spine. no way i see the saber breaking mags' shield either and even the tk through his shield would be doubtful imo.
vader DEF whips down easily on bats though....
not sure of yoda's limits in the extended universe, but he'd have to be FAR beyond what was displayed in any of the movies to contend with mags. i didn't think yoda was even stronger than vader at his height of power.....not as much exploitable material with yoda, but still, can't see him being a match for someone as powerful and versatile as mags.
Originally posted by DigiCan Magneto resist his helmet being crushed around his skull by the most powerful Jedi or Sith?
Magneto is beyond even the really good Jedi. Let's not go crazy in the other direction.
Or could he resist the power to devour a planet with a word in the form of Darth Nihilus?
Can he resist Sidious opening up a wormhole on his person?
The only way a Force User could even be mentioned in the same sentence is if they have a huge feat under their belt like Palpatine's Force Storms or someone literally becoming a conduit for the Force and attaining godhood for a bit.(Can't recall who all it happened to but they become extremely powerful)
But back on topic, Batman is schooled so hard.