Originally posted by BloodRainA lot stronger.
...literally the first line Quan. "one is stronger than the other"As said unless you can tell me how mush stronger his are, all we have is a stronger blast than something an unprotected Maryann could tank
Rarely can you quantify this sort of thing.
Why can't he bfr her ?
Main issue for Niall number 1.
What we know is that the knockback force is greater, as is the overall damage. We also know that besides tanking Sook's blast, she can also make herself tougher, enough to deflect bullets. So while Niall's blasts may be a lot stronger, Maryann's defence can become a lot stronger too. Already added to that tanking she did.
If it came down to that, probably. If it works, that is.
Originally posted by BloodRainFae magic is not the same as bullets. One is magic and one is not. While bullets do more piercing damage they don't always ko which seems to happen with the more highly powered Faeries.
Main issue for Niall number 1.What we know is that the knockback force is greater, as is the overall damage. We also know that besides tanking Sook's blast, she can also make herself tougher, enough to deflect bullets. So while Niall's blasts may be a lot stronger, Maryann's defence can become a lot stronger too. Already added to that tanking she did.
If it came down to that, probably. If it works, that is.
Why wouldn't that work ?
Who said Fae magic is bullets? Being bulletproof doesn't mean "can only survive bullets". Think of a tough animal hide and how much more resilient it is than human skin, just bump that resistance to bulletproof and you have Maryann. To keep with the animal theme, take a Fae blast that can only KO humans and fire that at an elephant or rhino. Really think it would knock them out too? And they arent even as tough as Maryann can be.
Because that same attack struck Jason and only threw him away.
Originally posted by BloodRainBullets don't have the ability to ko at the rate in which the Fae blasts by certain individuals do. Magic is different than physical attacks. That's why I make a clear distinction between the two. Just because Superman is more resistant to bullets that doesn't mean he is resistant to magical blasts.
Who said Fae magic is bullets? Being bulletproof doesn't mean "can only survive bullets". Think of a tough animal hide and how much more resilient it is than human skin, just bump that resistance to bulletproof and you have Maryann. To keep with the animal theme, take a Fae blast that can only KO humans and fire that at an elephant or rhino. Really think it would knock them out too? And they arent even as tough as Maryann can be.Because that same attack struck Jason and only threw him away.
Yes, but it hit his gf as well. The other time it hit him directly he was ko'd.
Pretty consistent when it hits someone.
They just have the force to penetrate the human body.. fatal wise, bullets are worse. again this isnt about the bullet itself but her skin being able to flick one away. Thats crazy levels above human durability, and humans can already survive hits from the Elder. If a human can survive the Elders blast, Maryann who is normally above humans would take that blast. The next thing up from the Elders blasts is Niall's, as is being bulletproof a step up in durability.
Didnt when it hit Jason.
Originally posted by BloodRainko wise and to vampires they are far less effective. Blasts ko while bullets do not.
They just have the force to penetrate the human body.. fatal wise, bullets are worse. again this isnt about the bullet itself but her skin being able to flick one away. Thats crazy levels above human durability, and humans can already survive hits from the Elder. If a human can survive the Elders blast, Maryann who is normally above humans would take that blast. The next thing up from the Elders blasts is Niall's, as is being bulletproof a step up in durability.Didnt when it hit Jason.
It isn't about death it is about being ko'd. That is a win. Continued exposure would be more damage. No, things don't
When it hit Jason it ko'd him. Elder ko'd him.
Yeah bullets just kill them, probably not as dangerous as being knocked out.. Once again youre focusing more on the means the Maryann herself;
Sookie < Elder < Niall
Sookie < Maryann < bulletproof Maryann
If humans can even survive Elder's blasts, Maryann will fair a lot better even without making herself tougher.
Didn't BFR though.
Originally posted by BloodRainBullets do not kill vampires unless they are wooden and aimed at that heart.
Yeah bullets just kill them, probably not as dangerous as being knocked out.. Once again youre focusing more on the means the Maryann herself;
Sookie < Elder < Niall
Sookie < Maryann < bulletproof MaryannIf humans can even survive Elder's blasts, Maryann will fair a lot better even without making herself tougher.
Didn't BFR though.
Being bulletproof is just a physical durability not a magical one.
Humans can survive but are ko'd. I never said they would kill Maryann just ko her. Also just because a blast ko's a person doesn't mean they wouldn't kill if they kept firing them at the person.
Claudine bfr'd and the Elder tried to bfr Russell she just missed him.
...why do you think I've been saying "Fae are as dangerous as humans with silver bullets"?
Yes and lets look at that magical durability. The magic has only shown three things: 1) That the natural light in it is anti-vamp. 2) It can add as a magic amp or disrupt some spells. 3) Maenad's seem to take pleasure in its magic. There is no reason to assume that, unlike the others, that this trait would reverse with a stronger Fae.
And if her durability is that much greater than a humans, why would it knock her out?
Missed and the blast failed to bfr Jason, yes.
Originally posted by BloodRainSo you agree the Fae with that kind of firepower we haven't seen against vampires. Good.
...why do you think I've been saying "Fae are as dangerous as humans with silver bullets"?Yes and lets look at that magical durability. The magic has only shown three things: 1) That the natural light in it is anti-vamp. 2) It can add as a magic amp or disrupt some spells. 3) Maenad's seem to take pleasure in its magic. There is no reason to assume that, unlike the others, that this trait would reverse with a stronger Fae.
And if her durability is that much greater than a humans, why would it knock her out?
Missed and the blast failed to bfr Jason, yes.
Light kos people as well. Not just anti vampire. That's silly. Sookie is far less powerful than a normal Fae even. Using her as some indicator while in other threads sticking to the vampire of age's power is hypocritical.
A vampire's is and it kos them as well.
Due to him being human. Claudine bfr'd Warlow. Magic was recited as to banish a vampire not a human. Pay attention to the words.
I agree that only 2 Fae are more dangerous that humans with silver bullets against vamps.
Yes, its the light.. I'm sure its not the concussive force strong enough to launch a human body across a room 😐 Humans are only knocked out by Elder + Maryann being able to take more than a human = she will fair better. And if you're really calling me a hypocirte than it only shows that you've failed to grasp what I've been basically repeating for a page now.
Cool, the the light that is anti-vamp knocks out vampires...
Lol when has anyone else ever needed a "magical recital" in order to do this? You can't make up feats.
Originally posted by BloodRainWhat ? We see Queen Mab and her forces destroy bodies altogether. That's ignoring that showing as well.
I agree that only 2 Fae are more dangerous that humans with silver bullets against vamps.Yes, its the light.. I'm sure its not the concussive force strong enough to launch a human body across a room 😐 Humans are only knocked out by Elder + Maryann being able to take more than a human = she will fair better. And if you're really calling me a hypocirte than it only shows that you've failed to grasp what I've been basically repeating for a page now.
Cool, the the light that is anti-vamp knocks out vampires...
Lol when has anyone else ever needed a "magical recital" in order to do this? You can't make up feats.
We see Faerie bombs destroy bodies altogether. So you agree the force matters. The same force we see knock Newlin a few hundred feet in the air. You say it is just the light while ignoring the force behind the same blast. Hypocritical indeed.
Knocks out people and launches them all the same.
What feats have I made up ?
And with the same reactions as humans, the chances of landing a fatal hit are the same.
Lolwat? Force was my only topic.. you were the one that brought up the magical essence and said it mattered 😛
Cool, still anti-vamp hitting a vamp. Not comparable.
Suggesting that the BFR didnt work because for some reason Elders words mentioned vampires, even though it has never even hinted at that saying words does this to Fae attacks.
Originally posted by BloodRainShe hit someone far above bullet time reactions. That shows they can hit the vampires.
And with the same reactions as humans, the chances of landing a fatal hit are the same.Lolwat? Force was my only topic.. you were the one that brought up the magical essence and said it mattered 😛
Cool, still anti-vamp hitting a vamp. Not comparable.
Suggesting that the BFR didnt work because for some reason Elders words mentioned vampires, even though it has [b]never
even hinted at that saying words does this to Fae attacks. [/B]
Ko'd human and vampire the same. You can't say it only kos vampires or is vampire specific. No proof at all.
Prove it since we have seen the exact same effects by the same attack on a vampire and a human.
We have seen another Fae bfr with a blast. The reason this did not work is her magical incantation was used to bfr a vampire. It was plainly stated.
So thats a no, she has never displayed the reactions to tag vampire speed. We all know vamps can be 'caught off guard' when being shot 😛
Shes far more durable that humans and unlike vamps enjoys the light. Oh look, resistance.
Light by itself harms Vamps, not humans.
Lol okay, so we're just making up incantation requirements, even when its shown that that is not needed.
Originally posted by BloodRainWarlow was still tagged thus proving any Fae her level and all can tag them.
So thats a no, she has never displayed the [b]reactions to tag vampire speed. We all know vamps can be 'caught off guard' when being shot 😛Shes far more durable that humans and unlike vamps enjoys the light. Oh look, resistance.
Light by itself harms Vamps, not humans.
Lol okay, so we're just making up incantation requirements, even when its shown that that is not needed. [/B]
Elder tagged vampire speed as well
You have no proven strength of the blast does not matter. I say it does.
It kos in the same fashion. The vamp was ko'd just like Jason. That's all.
Well Claudine bfr'd a vampire so we know it is possible with a blast which is the main point.
The exact opposite thing you say about Eric being shot and tagged by slower things. Interesting..
Lol she 'tagged' a 1 year old vampire.
I'm glad that you've proven the blasts strength matters
"Magic is different than physical attacks. That's why I make a clear distinction between the two. Just because Superman is more resistant to bullets that doesn't mean he is resistant to magical blasts."
"Being bulletproof is just a physical durability not a magical one."
:T
Vamps can't stand the light for being vamps, point?
And now you're back tracking on the 'needs chanting' thing. Does it need a special password or not? Anyhow, the human was fine.