Niall Brigant vs. Maryann Forrester

Started by quanchi1123 pages

Originally posted by BloodRain
The exact opposite thing you say about Eric being shot and tagged by slower things. Interesting..

Lol she 'tagged' a 1 year old vampire.

I'm glad that you've proven the blasts strength matters
"Magic is different than physical attacks. That's why I make a clear distinction between the two. Just because Superman is more resistant to bullets that doesn't mean he is resistant to magical blasts."
"Being bulletproof is just a physical durability not a magical one."
:T

Vamps can't stand the light for being vamps, point?

And now you're back tracking on the 'needs chanting' thing. Does it need a special password or not? Anyhow, the human was fine.

Warlow did not turn out to be impressive IMO. He was tagged and beaten by far less than Godric or Russell Edgington. Warlow can dodge and can be tagged. Russell is clever in combat unlike Warlow.

1 year old vampire still has blurry speeds far beyond humans.

That is correct but degree of power of a magical attack is also important. That's the thing just because one weak blast failed to hurt her does not mean a much more powerful blast would do so.

The opposite being..; saying that shes fast because she tagged a vampire that wasnt moving, while saying that Eric getting hit by bullets and slow doesnt count.

And still the slowest possible vampire. I mean, great for having fast reactions. Just not on the level of vamps older than Steve,

That alone has never been the argument.

Originally posted by BloodRain
The opposite being..; saying that shes fast because she tagged a vampire that wasnt moving, while saying that Eric getting hit by bullets and slow doesnt count.

And still the slowest possible vampire. I mean, great for having fast reactions. Just not on the level of vamps older than Steve,

That alone has never been the argument.

I am saying she can tag vampires with better perception than Eric. I am not saying she never missed but that Fae can tag vampires and that Fae can miss vampires.

Everything counts. I don't debate in absolutes like you featmongers do.

That is what it boils down to.

Yes, Fae can tag vampires, just like all those times humans can tag vampires 😐 It does not give reaction/speed to their names.

Do you read what you write? I'm telling you that her reactions only cover the slowest possible vampire, and you want to act like she can react to faster vamps?

No, it isnt. You believe that either his blasts would damage her or do just enough damage that he can rack up hits over time, but cannot say for sure without getting an idea of how much more powerful his blasts are to the Elders. The best way is to compare what they've done. There is a large gap between Sookie's and Elder's power, and the difference between their power is that Elder's knocks bodies further back. Similar is the damage, with Sook knocking out humans and vamps most of the time and Elder just KOing them. With the sheer fact that Maryann is more durable than humans where she is able to tank Sook's blast with glee, the argument can easily be made that she'd be able to do something similar with the Elder's based on both the force and damage difference between their blasts. Even if the difference between them is the same of Elder and Niall, that still means the gap isn't massive. If the argument can me made for Elder, the argument can be made that Niall's attacks wouldn't be all that effective. This would lead on to your "just keep on firing and wearing her down" argument, but this gets countered by Maryann being able to make herself even more durable.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Yes, Fae can tag vampires, just like all those times humans can tag vampires 😐 It does not give reaction/speed to their names.

Do you read what you write? I'm telling you that her reactions only cover the slowest possible vampire, and you want to act like she can react to faster vamps?

No, it isnt. You believe that either his blasts would damage her or do just enough damage that he can rack up hits over time, but cannot say for sure without getting an idea of how much more powerful his blasts are to the Elders. The best way is to compare what they've done. There is a large gap between Sookie's and Elder's power, and the difference between their power is that Elder's knocks bodies further back. Similar is the damage, with Sook knocking out humans and vamps most of the time and Elder just KOing them. With the sheer fact that Maryann is more durable than humans where she is able to tank Sook's blast with glee, the argument can easily be made that she'd be able to do something similar with the Elder's based on both the force and damage difference between their blasts. Even if the difference between them is the same of Elder and Niall, that still means the gap isn't massive. If the argument can me made for Elder, the argument can be made that Niall's attacks wouldn't be all that effective. This would lead on to your "just keep on firing and wearing her down" argument, but this gets countered by Maryann being able to make herself even more durable.

Tagging a 5,500 one with her blast does carry weight. She is not as good as the Elder or Niall yet still pulled it off.

I am saying their abilities have hit the oldest vampire/Faerie in the show. We see it isn't that easy and have seen the Elder and Niall both react to their blitz speed.

Maryann doesn't have that much experience with Faeries since she was not even aware of what Sookie was when this was happening. I disagree and think Niall weathers her down.