Caedus vs Sith Emperor

Nah, I still doubt that. 1400 years is a hell of a long time.

about the force knowledge, sidious is said to have mastered EVERY dark side technique, and create new ones as he pleases. while there may be some hyperbole, that doesnt take away the fact that sidious very well may have known almost every dark side power, plus he studied the lightside, something i don't think vitiate has.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Nah, I still doubt that. 1400 years is a hell of a long time.

It is.

And were Vitiate's powers proportionate to that level of time and effort, I'd see your point.

But as you conceded recently, Vitiate (w/ 1400 years under his belt) is ultimately less impressive than a guy with about 80.

Palpatine made an exhaustive, concerted effort to study the Force in all its guises across the galaxy per The Dark Empire Sourcebook. Until Vitiate is confirmed explicitly to have done the same, Palpatine's still the top dog.

while there may be some hyperbole, that doesnt take away the fact that sidious very well may have known almost every dark side power

please dont tell me ur one of those peeps who thinks palps is a weakling

Originally posted by Thor Is Girly
The ridiculousness of the statement makes it hyperbole.

I'll remember that with all things Vitiate. 👆

The quote is ultimately worthless because it's merely a reflection of what "is believed" about Palpatine's knowledge.

please dont tell me ur one of those peeps who thinks palps is a weakling

Originally posted by The_Tempest
But as you conceded recently, Vitiate (w/ 1400 years under his belt) is ultimately less impressive than a guy with about 80.

So far, maybe.

Originally posted by Nephthys
So far, maybe.

You're so cute when you try to backpedal. Don't worry, I can quote you your recent post if you like!

Accept it. The character is inherently shitty from top to bottom and in spite of guzzling down the spiritual semen of 8 thousand Sith Lords and studying the dark side for 14 centuries... he's still second best.

Originally posted by Thor Is Girly

It's completely possible that he mastered ALMOST every darkside technique

Is that what you got from my post? lol

ok good, thank god lol

I still just cant accept that he's 2nd best

Edit: Caedus was considered far stronger than darth vader, who was 80% of palpatine, so it's very possible that he's equal to or greater than vitiate

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
I still just cant accept that he's 2nd best

He probably is.

If only for the fact that he's so hilariously modeled after Numero Uno. Even Palpatine-lite is still Palpatine.

But his showings are fairly embarrassing for a guy with that much clout. And I'd forgive that if he were, like Palpatine, an iconic villain featured in a vast array of sources wherein the probability of low showings were high.

As it stands, Vitiate has been featured in 2-3 and is cringeworthy.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
You're so cute when you try to backpedal. Don't worry, I can quote you your recent post if you like!

Accept it. The character is inherently shitty from top to bottom and in spite of guzzling down the spiritual semen of 8 thousand Sith Lords and studying the dark side for [b]14 centuries... he's still second best. [/B]

If it wasn't for the lack of lightsaber feats I'd trump him as being above Sidious.

i put him at 3rd, because, for all of his feats (which imo jacen has almost equaled) he struggled with revan, who is definitely not as strong as vader, who caedus is said to be far stronger than.

Revan was specifically prepared for him tho. Plus he wasn't at his peak.

Why wouldnt revan be at his peak, when he's knowingly entering the toughest fight of his life? it's like a boxer entering a ring with a million $ on the line, not being at his best

No, Vitiate isn't at peak.

Originally posted by Nephthys
If it wasn't for the lack of lightsaber feats I'd trump him as being above Sidious.

You, less than 2 weeks ago
If you factor in Force Storms, DE Sidious clearly edges it out.

😂

lol

true, vit wasnt at his peak, but he still lost to the Mary Sue of Tython, who doesnt have nearly enough feats to compete with caedus