Originally posted by Sacred 117Yeah you can't multiply speed like that. Bumping up from the best speed feats they have give his possible speed, and star busting as the greatest feat is DB is large planet busting, so as with speed a fair assumption says that is what it could be.
I'd say Goku actually peaks at High Herald. SSJ2 Gogeta I'm not sure about. As for speed, just multiply the top speeds for both character and, in theory, you should have it. I would guess SSJ4 at roughly Transcendent, but I probably wouldn't put him beyond that. I see little reason to suggest differently.Edit: Where does "Star Buster" put him?
So many assumptions.. but yeah, the speed and destruction by itself means it fails to deals high herald. From the feats we have, that is.
I've always safely assumed Goku to be High Herald (at peak). I can't see putting him much lower than that. In turn, the best thing you can do is scale Gogeta up from there. For collective Gogeta, I'd say High Herald or Transcendent. Though Trans may be pushing it depending on where Goku stands. I'm not sure where SSJ God puts him.
Basically from calcs end of Z characters should be able to destroy a planet I believe 20 times that of Jupiter (sketchy calc, but meh), and by powerscaling seeing as SS1 GTGoku could do that, Gogeta here could too. But powerscaling doesnt allow assumptions, so possible star level is the best they'll every get.
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
well she was beat by chrysalis's love beam...
Season 1 Celestia and Luna were hardcore as ****. Discord was powerful enough to be a credible villain despite this, but Chrysalis just devoured so much love or something. Pet peeve.
Originally posted by Sacred 117
I've always safely assumed Goku to be High Herald (at peak). I can't see putting him much lower than that. In turn, the best thing you can do is scale Gogeta up from there. For collective Gogeta, I'd say High Herald or Transcendent. Though Trans may be pushing it depending on where Goku stands. I'm not sure where SSJ God puts him.
Originally posted by BloodRainPower scaling with DBZ doesn't work well, the series is pretty inconsistent.
Basically from calcs end of Z characters should be able to destroy a planet I believe 20 times that of Jupiter (sketchy calc, but meh), and by powerscaling seeing as SS1 GTGoku could do that, Gogeta here could too. But powerscaling doesnt allow assumptions, so possible star level is the best they'll every get.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
That was just the icing on the crap writing cake of that episode, lol.Season 1 Celestia and Luna were hardcore as ****. Discord was powerful enough to be a credible villain despite this, but Chrysalis just devoured so much love or something. Pet peeve.
Thor and Superman are high heralds, no DBZ character exceeds them.
Gogeta I'm still self-debating on; Goku wouldn't for certain, but that doesn't necessarily call for scaling Goku down. As said, some characters can exceed others within the same tier.
If I recall correctly, any proper fusion achieved through the ritual was more powerful than a fusion by the earrings. Since it was a limited fusion, the power of the character was greater by factors, where as the earrings only generated a character with power of the sum.
Vegito = Vegeta + Goku
Gogeta = 4(Goku + Vegeta)
Originally posted by BloodRain
Okay, to reach high herald goku would need his level of destruction, ftl speeds and many other powers and hax. He only has one of those traits and severely lacks two of them. He cannot be in this tier.
I'm still off on what qualifies as hax. Otherwise, TK, teleportation, sixth sense, mind reading, etc.