Marvel NOW Thor vs Hulk

Started by carver96 pages

Hulk has recently...

Was the only one that stunned the Starbrand user
Caused planetary destruction while punching an enemy.
Tanked a Nuke that engulfed 1/3 of the planet.
Tanked a adamantium molding blast.
Shown increditble movement speed.
Tanked matter manipulation.
Ripped through armor that can withstand "any" pressure in space.
Tanked blasts that was stated as being Thor level.
Stalemated a powerful being right after his showing of holding two universes apart (and even had Hickman state Hulk is stronger).
Tanked flying/porting through a time limbo.
Took on Thor, Ironman, and Captain America and held his own.
Stabbed Wolverine claws through his skull.
Took out a beast with 3 punches that had companions that was stalemating Thor and beating the rest of the Avengers.

Hulk wins this.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
And that direction is that Hulk can withstand a weapon built for beings on Thor's level. However, as history has pointed out, that means jack shit conclusively except as a base line maybe and it certainly doesn't mean that this weapon was as powerful as Thor. Seriously, that's retarded.

I understood where Waid was going with this. Don't know why you are having ahard time uunderstanding it. I never said he was shooting out Thors best but he sure as hell was tanking high Herald level powers. Don't know why this is difficult for you to accept. They gave the Thor like weapons some major props...

http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/snapshot12_zps8d41b5d9.jpg.html?sort=3&o=27

Even though Hulk tanked it.

Originally posted by Zack Fair

😂

Originally posted by iceman24567
Edge to Thor
Originally posted by carver9
Hulk recently already tanked multiple Thor level weapons. 🙂

Taking that technology's boasted power levels at face value is a legitimate interpretation. Just so long as you don't turn around and ignore that Thor recently already tanked multiple Thor+++++++++ weapons himself.

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk has recently...

Caused planetary destruction while punching an enemy.
Tanked a Nuke that engulfed 1/3 of the planet.

Marvel Now ?

Have images ?

"Thor level ordnance"

Is simply put, bullshit.

Any group that's capable of almost mass-producing Mjolnir-level weapons would not only be ruling earth with little to no problem, but the entire galaxy.

^ Doesn't it strike you that the description "Thor-level" might not necessarily mean "on par with Mjolnir"?

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk has recently...

Was the only one that stunned the Starbrand user
Caused planetary destruction while punching an enemy.
Tanked a Nuke that engulfed 1/3 of the planet.
Tanked a adamantium molding blast.
Shown increditble movement speed.
Tanked matter manipulation.
Ripped through armor that can withstand "any" pressure in space.
Tanked blasts that was stated as being Thor level.
Stalemated a powerful being right after his showing of holding two universes apart (and even had Hickman state Hulk is stronger).
Tanked flying/porting through a time limbo.
Took on Thor, Ironman, and Captain America and held his own.
Stabbed Wolverine claws through his skull.
Took out a beast with 3 punches that had companions that was stalemating Thor and beating the rest of the Avengers.

Hulk wins this.

I don't know how you can start a list and lie on the first point

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I don't know how you can start a list and lie on the first point

I didn't lie. What I said was legit.

Originally posted by carver9
I didn't lie. What I said was legit.
He wasn't the only one, and he was thrown by a class 50-ish character back into the planet to accomplish this via a massive cheap shot. It was pretty much a massive fastball special and whatever Hulk did right before it landed.

You're also using flashback comics as proof. While the release date fits, it's not exactly "now". And I doubt you want to use those considering the issue where Thor beat up two Hulks in h2h as well as ko'ing him in a different fight happened in Flashbacks.

The last one was the Thanos arc too I believe. You could have gotten any other feat from there but you chose the one where the guy's only feat was getting beat by Hulk. You mixed up "beasts".
Going off memory anyway. That also happened before the status quo changed after Avengers vs Queer Men. Which is what Marvel Now is

With that said, I don't think 2, and 3 fit that mold either, but I digress

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
He wasn't the only one, and he was thrown by a class 50-ish character back into the planet to accomplish this via a massive cheap shot. It was pretty much a massive fastball special and whatever Hulk did right before it landed.

You're also using flashback comics as proof. While the release date fits, it's not exactly "now". And I doubt you want to use those considering the issue where Thor beat up two Hulks in h2h as well as ko'ing him in a different fight happened in Flashbacks.

The last one was the Thanos arc too I believe. You could have gotten any other feat from there but you chose the one where the guy's only feat was getting beat by Hulk. You mixed up "beasts".
Going off memory anyway. That also happened before the status quo changed after Avengers vs Queer Men. Which is what Marvel Now is

Lol...I know you are not including the throw as something that aided in Hulk stunning the SB. Also, the SB looked up in the air before Hulk hit him. Hulk screamed down the entire time, giving warning that he was about to knock that a** out.

All of those guys during that arc was similar in power...even had a random one stalemating Thor...actually had the advantage against him. I could have used Hulk tanking blasts that dropped Thor on multiple of occasions or Hulk one shotting Thor, but I think that was the best choice.

Is that Thor and Hulks fight even canon? Also, that was a flash back and its unusable...my bad. 🙂

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...I know you are not including the throw as something that aided in Hulk stunning the SB.

Erm..
So everytime Thor hurls Mjolnir and rocks someone, it's all Mjolnir...?

😕

He might as well have human strength because apparently to u his strength is never needed anyway..

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...I know you are not including the throw as something that aided in Hulk stunning the SB. Also, the SB looked up in the air before Hulk hit him. Hulk screamed down the entire time, giving warning that he was about to knock that a** out.

All of those guys during that arc was similar in power...even had a random one stalemating Thor...actually had the advantage against him. I could have used Hulk tanking blasts that dropped Thor on multiple of occasions or Hulk one shotting Thor, but I think that was the best choice.

Is that Thor and Hulks fight even canon? Also, that was a flash back and its unusable...my bad. 🙂

how did the throw not help? Or maybe the 40 or so thousand feet Hulk traveled there didn't help either
Starbrand had no time to do anything and Hulk was aided by traveling way faster than he normally can. Hulk was basically an indestructible projectile.

One of them was a ****ing water dude. How is that similar in power?
The only one with any merit was the one who beat up Thor, and the water dude, who iirc beat up Hulk. The one Hulk 3 shotted did not fight Thor.

It's a comic that apparently happened in the past. Don't see why it wouldn't be canon, just not relevant to the Marvel Now characters.

Also, the fight you mentioned had Thor ko'ing Hulk with a backhand hammer swing. In the same issue Thor beat up two Hulks h2h. Soooo... Not exactly the best evidence to put Hulk over Thor... To say the ****ing least.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
how did the throw not help? Or maybe the 40 or so thousand feet Hulk traveled there didn't help either
Starbrand had no time to do anything and Hulk was aided by traveling way faster than he normally can. Hulk was basically an indestructible projectile.

One of them was a ****ing water dude. How is that similar in power?
The only one with any merit was the one who beat up Thor, and the water dude, who iirc beat up Hulk. The one Hulk 3 shotted did not fight Thor.

It's a comic that apparently happened in the past. Don't see why it wouldn't be canon, just not relevant to the Marvel Now characters.

Also, the fight you mentioned had Thor ko'ing Hulk with a backhand hammer swing. In the same issue Thor beat up two Hulks h2h. Soooo... Not exactly the best evidence to put Hulk over Thor... To say the ****ing least.

Its more on the strength end. I feel safe at saying that if Cannonball flew from those distance hitting the SB, it wouldn't have done a thing. The SB had enough time to brace, hell, moments before that, he tanked an unaware Mjlonir throw.

The water dude didn't beat Hulk. Also, Taurus (think I'm saying that right) koed Thor and Ironman, Thor then fought a different one that basically overpowered him, punched him through a roof, then threw a plane on him. All of them were similar. Hulk just 4 punched one. They were cautious about fighting Hulk anyways.

I already told you I was wrong about using Flash back. Lets get off that topic.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Erm..
So everytime Thor hurls Mjolnir and rocks someone, it's all Mjolnir...?

😕

He might as well have human strength because apparently to u his strength is never needed anyway..

Your point is irrelevant since the Starbrand tanked a Mjlonir throw in the same arc. A sneak attack Mjlonir throw.

Originally posted by carver9
Your point is irrelevant since the Starbrand tanked a Mjlonir throw in the same arc. A sneak attack Mjlonir throw.

Huh?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Huh?

You brought up a Mjlonir throw as a metaphor...I think you should have used a better example since that option was used during that fight as well.