Originally posted by eaebiakuya
This one ?http://img42.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-31652/loc199/79605_meteorr.jpg
Originally posted by The SorrowI disagree. I believe flash, zoom, and WW (fighting cheesy) can beat Superman.
Your Superman can defeat anyone or perform any feat H1 because he doesn't exist in comics.
We go by feats to compare characters from different companies. I use feats to back up my arguments. Not made up shit.
Originally posted by h1a8
I disagree. I believe flash, zoom, and WW (fighting cheesy) can beat Superman.We go by feats to compare characters from different companies. I use feats to back up my arguments. Not made up shit.
DC in general has far more quantifiable speed feats, while in general Marvel seems to focus more on power. If everyone had your mentality there would almost be no point in having cross-company vs threads because DC would almost always win.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Another thread successfully ruined by Superman.Don't know why I thought this one would be different
Not really the character's fault. It's his one or two followers that come up with cockamamie stories that devolve these kinds of threads.
With his rich history of feats, I'm sure one can come up with a plausible explanation of why he can bust a planet. It's quite funny the things they come up with while foregoing proper logic and reason.
I don't even think the OP required on panel planet busting. I think he was simply asking who could bust a planet.
Originally posted by The Sorrow
Yes speed characters. You primarily use mathematics and physics which while interesting at times, is probably the reason why your arguements often don't match up with what actually happens on panel and why 99% of the forum dismiss what you have to say, often before you've even said it. Feats aren't the only basis which to compare characters as not every character has a huge amount of them, consistency also plays a significant part.DC in general has far more quantifiable speed feats, while in general Marvel seems to focus more on power. If everyone had your mentality there would almost be no point in having cross-company vs threads because DC would almost always win.
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Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Another thread successfully ruined by Superman.Don't know why I thought this one would be different
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
😂Not really the character's fault. It's his one or two followers that come up with cockamamie stories that devolve these kinds of threads.
With his rich history of feats, I'm sure one can come up with a plausible explanation of why he can bust a planet. It's quite funny the things they come up with while foregoing proper logic and reason.
I don't even think the OP required on panel planet busting. I think he was simply asking who could bust a planet.
Yeah, lets ignore on panel feats and call the thread ruined because of that. Excellent strategy as always.
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Originally posted by celeyhyga17👆
😂Not really the character's fault. It's his one or two followers that come up with cockamamie stories that devolve these kinds of threads.
With his rich history of feats, I'm sure one can come up with a plausible explanation of why he can bust a planet. It's quite funny the things they come up with while foregoing proper logic and reason.
I don't even think the OP required on panel planet busting. I think he was simply asking who could bust a planet.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
😂Not really the character's fault. It's his one or two followers that come up with cockamamie stories that devolve these kinds of threads.
With his rich history of feats, I'm sure one can come up with a plausible explanation of why he can bust a planet. It's quite funny the things they come up with while foregoing proper logic and reason.
I don't even think the OP required on panel planet busting. I think he was simply asking who could bust a planet.
Being arguably the strongest high-herald in existence is really all he needs. Characters with less get given the benefit of the doubt more often, so lets not pretend Abhi is the only issue in threads like these.
As for the thread, guys, stay on topic. Half of you are one wrong word away from a banning.
Originally posted by The SorrowFeats are the only basis in which to compare characters from DIFFERENT COMPANIES. We can't use portrayals or ABC logic since the characters never fought against each other from the different companies. We have to use direct feats. Otherwise, how do you know that Thor is stronger than Hawkman?
Yes speed characters. You primarily use mathematics and physics which while interesting at times, is probably the reason why your arguements often don't match up with what actually happens on panel and why 99% of the forum dismiss what you have to say, often before you've even said it. Feats aren't the only basis which to compare characters as not every character has a huge amount of them, consistency also plays a significant part.DC in general has far more quantifiable speed feats, while in general Marvel seems to focus more on power. If everyone had your mentality there would almost be no point in having cross-company vs threads because DC would almost always win.
Surfer, Terrax, Superman, GL Hal (from that Starbreaker Earth feat), WBH, Sentry, Genis, and Gladiator are the only true ones I can think of that can solo a planet with at least a few hits.
Originally posted by h1a8
Feats are the only basis in which to compare characters from DIFFERENT COMPANIES. We can't use portrayals or ABC logic since the characters never fought against each other from the different companies. We have to use direct feats. Otherwise, how do you know that Thor is stronger than Hawkman?Surfer, Terrax, Superman, GL Hal (from that Starbreaker Earth feat), WBH, Sentry, Genis, and Gladiator are the only true ones I can think of that can solo a planet with at least a few hits.
Originally posted by The SorrowFeats include showings against characters from the same comic company. But the basis OF ALL FEATS is some natural feat (feat against an object or thing).
No it isn't, you can use your common ******* sense too. Feats are the main part of it yes, but it isn't always possible to compare direct feats as not all characters have 1000's of appearances or a catalog of feats like the flagship heroes. We can use the tier system and character comparison, in your example Hawkmans performances against the other top tiers in DC and going from there, if he doesn't have many strength/durability feats. Also, I've heard reading comics helps...
For example, how do we know what tier a certain character is in? We look at their natural feats, or them against someone who does have natural feats. In other words, it always boiled down to natural feats as the primary basis for everything.
And tiers doesn't determine individual attributes like strength and speed, but overall formidably. For example, some herald level beings are not stronger than some meta beings.
