Digi Post #2
Short posts aren't bad. I'm saying everything I need to. To go longer would just bloat my posts with unnecessary stuff. Hopefully we can maintain the brevity.
Phase Out
First thing, I want to get rid of a straw man that PG is attacking.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
Shadowcat's ability to shut down machines doesn't work on him
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While I might point out that it DID temporarily disable him, that's not the point. The point is: I never used phasing as an attack. As PG's scan here (and another he's used) show us wonderfully, X-51 is incapable of hitting a phased opponent. Sure, he does the little teleport trick with Vision, but that wouldn't even put a scratch on Ultimo.
But Kitty goes right through him, as does Vision. My phasing is a defensive tactic, not an offensive one. It's to ensure that the fight exists on my terms, not PG's. Even if he sees through my invisibility (he won't), he's pretty impotent to hurt me until I say we're fighting.
So, get rid of this straw man. I have at least half a dozen other ways to beat him. I don't need to wade into this shallow trap that PG thinks he's sprung.
Speed Limit
PG's point that he keeps trying to make is that Northstar is fast. That's cool and all, but to reiterate:
- I can keep up with him in terms of travel speed. Both Ultimo and DA are capable of space travel. So any speed edge is ONLY valid at point blank range.
- But, at point blank range, he's in a lot of trouble, because that would allow me to activate the null field...ya know, the thing that can and will nullify his entire amalgam.
Didn't I Already Beat You...
For those that don't follow every tourney, I've actually beaten PG with the drainer gun.
At low meta.
It's not the world-ender he wants it to be. Or rather, it only is if I'm dumb.
Let's go over the ways it's useless:
- My primary plan involves targeting it first and phasing it out of PG's grasp, effectively making it worthless. He has NO counter to this, and I have numerous feats supporting the tactic (see writeup).
- The null field generator that I grabbed in prep will also be useful on the drainer if needed.
- Ok, so Ivo stole it from Tony. Does that make it "standard" for Stark? Judges, use your discretion. A he said/he said back and forth won't get us anywhere. But please note my objection to it as anything approaching standard for Tony's armory. If you don't believe it would be, please remove it from your considerations of PG's prep.
Phase Two
These nanobots. Once released, do they retain Northstar's speed?
Yeah, thought not. Just some common sense there.
Second, what happens when I phase while being attacked by nanbots? Oh, right, they fall to the ground and I'm back to normal. And that's only if your plan goes exactly as your script it, which it won't.
We both teleport. Only I can phase.
Responding to PG
Originally posted by psycho gundam
[b]The Shutdown attemptalready showed how feeble that was since it was already posted, and the outcome where X-51 wtf reactivates a second later. digi can't even hope to get him in that state again and if he somehow did he just gets back up again, adapted to that avenue of attack and stronger thereafter. http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/MachineMan616/x5105-17.jpg http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/MachineMan616/x5105-18.jpg [/B]
I'm not doing something like this. I'm generating a null field and/or attacking you with powerful EM blasts, which have been shown to work on both Tony and X-51.
Another semi-straw man. This time he does nothing to refute the numerous instances I've shown of his amalgam being susceptible to my EM attacks (see Digi Post #1 for scans).
Originally posted by psycho gundam
You'd have to get him that way in the first place and the little field of Dark Angel's isn't enough. you said she could activate the weak black box with it, where? She can hold it without burning it up that's all, you still have the obstacle of getting as close to you need it to be to attempt to take my character out, but he's shielded, too fast, a faster teleporter, and in your character's torso.
"Weak" is a guess. You have no evidence to suggest it wouldn't temporarily render your amalgam a vegetable.
I can teleport like you. And your vaunted speed won't help you stay away from me if I'm attacking. Remember, travel speed is exactly the same. You're not escaping me if I don't want you to.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
[b]-Mephisto-He sucks sometimes
Marvel demons are bound by deceit. They cannot read minds or any type of stuff like that so him being blind to the presence of DA for a few seconds has no bearing on how formidable your invisibility truly is. Here Satannish, his other, gets surprised to see the full aspect of Mephisto in his presence when he was there the whole time under his nose within Hawkeye.
http://s1099.photobucket.com/user/psychogundam1/media/kabuto/tourney/meph1_zps295b9c4d.jpg.html http://s1099.photobucket.com/user/psychogundam1/media/kabuto/tourney/meph2_zps448c8056.jpg.html
Demons are limited like that. They can be tricked, Mephisto has been tricked MANY times, and if his 'brother\twin' cannot simply feel his presence greatest enemy's power by a simple trick like that....really doesn't lend credit to DA. Satannish being an arch Demon to boot.[/B]
Your counter is to show someone that ISN'T Mephisto being unable to detect Mephisto. That's ridiculous. Not only does it not prove anything, but it doesn't even suggest what you're trying to say or provide a shred of evidence.
It would be like showing Baldur getting smacked around, then claiming Thor would too bc they're both gods. It's just silly.
I must be missing something here. Re-explain it if you must.
Anyway, I only need invisibility long enough to phase the drainer gun. Then I honestly don't care if you find me. We're talking about a few seconds into the fight; then we can throw down like men.
But, back to the main point, Mephisto is a boss. I don't see anything to suggest my plan isn't lock-tight.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
Havok is neutralized
He is?! I must have missed that part. Because all I saw was me showing how I could suck the energy right out of your amalgam, and how your most powerful attacks would not only be useless, but would make me stronger (Digi Post #1).
Firepower
Take a look through PG's posts. He's not entirely without offense. He has the drainer gun - PG's prayer to the heavens that he hopes can drag him through the bracket. He's also got some impressive but inconclusive nanotech scans.
He's lacking anything that could do actual damage to me. Like, at all.
Meanwhile:
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The probable response to that battle is that it wasn't against PG's amalgam, which will be much more powerful overall. Obviously we don't have scans against amalgams, so comparisons like these offer our best evidence. But it's an extremely relevant smackdown for several reasons:
1. To show the initial gap in power. Ultimo was tanking about a dozen legit armors and acting like he was swatting away bugs.
2. To remind you that PG has no strength amp, no massive power amp. I can tear him apart with ONLY Ultimo. And that's before strength-amping via Havok, and DA's more esoteric powers.
3. To remind everyone that this is my power level before my own amps. Before adding a herald-buster Havok to the mix. Before a speed and versatility upgrade. I can tear him in two like Sentry did to Ares, then atomize the halves in moments.
