Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
And yet with vaapad and shatterpoint he was still Dooku's equal.
Vaapad has limits: the inner darkness (dark emotions) of the user and the darkness of the user's opponent. Windu was extremely pissed off upon learning about Palpatine being the sith lord who played them all like fools years, so Mace's dark emotions were possibly at it's peak. The same way a dark sider can feed on his dark emotions (rage) to boost himself, is basically what vaapad does, except a master of it doesn't succumb to the dark side, but can still use it to boost his performance, hence why Mace created it. And Sidious being a much darker being than Dooku, Windu would receive a greater amp than he would against Dooku.
Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Dooku also has mastery of all VII forms of lightsaber combat to the extent that he could teach them to Grievous. Dooku is also noted as being the most agile swordmaster and instructor in the temple.
When has Dooku displayed the speed that matches Sidious. When has he blitzed through three celebrated swordsmasters? Or the strength to push back someone like Savage with one arm? Strength also plays a huge part in duels, and it's also how Anakin overpowered Dooku in ROTS.
And no Windu is not as fast as Sidious without the benefit of vaapad. If he were, Sidious shouldn't have slaughtered his companions and forced Windu back. It wouldn't have taken Windu time to fully submerge in vaapad.
And if Dooku was faster than Windu, then why wasn't he able to gain any advantage during their duel on Boz Pity? They were practically even from the very start of their duel. So if Sidious can blitz through Mace's team and proceed to force Windu back, then he would be able to do the same to Dooku. If you want to argue that Dooku can get out of a situation of being driven back by Sidious' speed and somehow magically start to equal him in terms of speed as Windu did after he fully submerged in vaapad, then the burden of proof is on you to explain how.
And as far as Sidious duel with Yoda, Sidious was at a disadvantage on the platform they were fighting on, barely having enough room to leap/move around in, whereas Yoda, being a lot smaller, had far more room to leap around in. He wasn't as limited as Sidious was. And Yoda was mostly fighting on the higher part of the platform, which gave him more reach than it would normally give him when fighting opponents on even ground.
Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Because Filoni says that Savage alone performed way better than the B-Team. Let alone Maul.
And Savage did perform better than them because Sidious allowed him to. Filoni also described the context of the fight: one that Sidious was enjoying himself in. Lucas didn't portray Sidious as being toyful with the three masters as he was portrayed as doing with the brothers.
Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Maul is in a different league than all of them.
I agree that Maul is better than any of them individually, but he most certainly does not provide a greater threat than all three of them put together. To even think that is rather silly, unless you also assume that Vizsla, a non-force sensitive is also better than all of them put together, considering he gave Maul a decent fight. And seeing how you believe Obi Wan is superior to Maul in terms of bladework, should I remind you how Viszla has put Obi Wan on his back while he [Vizsla] was unarmed? I guess Vizsla is greater than three of the greatest jedi warriors put together?
Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Dooku has no feats to suggest he can give Sidious hell? Really? He gave Master Yoda hell. The same Master Yoda who disarmed Sidious. And he was stated to be at least Mace's equal, who...also disarmed Sidious. Also Dooku is the only person in the mythos to ever injure Master Yoda.
Unlike Yoda, Sidious has absolutely no love for Dooku and would not hesitate on killing him. In AOTC, Yoda held back on attacking Dooku with the force other than redirecting Dooku's own force lightning attack back at him, so I'm not going to assume that Yoda suddenly decided to get real serious and try his hardest to kill Dooku in saber combat. In DR, Yeah Dooku gave Yoda trouble, but he was also amped by the dark side nexus on Vjun, a benefit that Yoda did not have on that planet. In fact, dark side nexuses are said to diminish a light sider's powers. So not only was Yoda fighting someone who was amped, but he was also fighting while having his own powers diminished while struggling to fight off his own inner demons, and yet he still had Dooku on the defensive and eventually on the retreat.
Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
He was afraid she was GROWING too strong.
Prove he was afraid. There is absolutely nothing that implies it.
Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Just like how Galen Marek and Vader are a threat to him, so would a fully trained Ventress and Dooku.
You implied that Dooku feared Dooku and Ventress at the time he order Ventress's elimination. Ventress was not fully trained in sith ways at the time, and she certainly isn't a threat to Sidious whatsoever when he can easily crush her with the force alone. How is she of any help to Dooku?
Again, if Dooku was as close to Sidious in terms of combat as you seem to think, then why did he fear Sidious to the extent that he did if he had an apprentice that may even the odds? Do not compare that with Vader and Marek having a chance, unlike them Dooku had the entire army of the CIS under his direct control and knew of Sidious' greatest secrets; if he felt that he could have taken on Sidious with the help of an apprentice then the time was perfect. Vader and Marek would have been alone against Sidious and his unlimited army of the empire.
Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
May is operative here. And Dooku tells Savage that he will make him rival Darth Maul, with the intention of overthrowing Sidious. Do you seriously think Dooku would attempt a suicide run at the most powerful Sith Lord in history for shits?
The only thing Dooku knew about Maul was that he killed his old padawan and was killed by Obi Wan. He had no way to judge Maul on his abilities other than stories that Sidious may have told him. So Dooku's opinion is irrelevant when Sidious already proved how easily he can toss Maul (and Savage at the same time) around with the force.
Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Get your head out of your ass. Sidious is better than Dooku, but the margin isn't as massive as you think. Dooku is essentially Vader with force lightning and not his glaring weakness to Sidious lighting.
How about you get your head out of Dooku's ass. You've provided no feats from Dooku that suggest he would give Sidious hell. The gap between Sidious and Dooku is huge. Sidious casually overpowers both Maul and Opress simultaneously with the force alone despite there efforts to break free, while Dooku relied heavily on force usage just to keep an upper hand during his struggle against Ventress (someone less powerful than Maul) and a Savage who was not as powerful as the one Sidious casually owned via the force.