Originally posted by ROTJ Vader
@Mizukage Yoda Are you serious?.
Serious about what? That Dooku and Maul teamed up could pose a threat to Sidious? Yeah. That Dooku alone could defeat Sidious. Not really that's more me playing devil's advocate. But I do believe that Dooku could scathe a victory one in ten times. Sidious is not going to low diff Dooku.
Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Serious about what? That Dooku and Maul teamed up could pose a threat to Sidious? Yeah. That Dooku alone could defeat Sidious. Not really that's more me playing devil's advocate. But I do believe that Dooku could scathe a victory one in ten times. Sidious is not going to low diff Dooku.
Lets not beat the dead pig here. Maul is a nonfactor to Sidious, and Sidious would pwn Dooku.
Originally posted by ROTJ Vader
Sidious would trash Dooku in a all out just like he would trash Mace.
Except Lucas himself states Mace can compete with Sidious.
Originally posted by Col. ValerianI doubt Dooku could even win once against Sidious.
Going by the way ROTS and TCW have portrayed fights, I just don't buy it. I understand Kenobi or Maul losing 10/10. But Dooku is the next league down after Sidious/Yoda. From the way SW has portrayed mind sets, the environment and cirumstances effects fights, Dooku should be able to take 1 or 1 wins.
If however we assume a fair environment every time with everyone in peak condition, then yes I agree Dooku would lose 10/10.
Originally posted by Intrepid37
Sure he is. The trio consisting of some of the most skilled Jedi were a non factor combined with Mace.
Maul is well above any of those 3.
Ventress/Opress were both non-threats to Dooku individually. But together they posed a threat to the Count. It would be the same thing with Dooku/Maul Imo.
If Mace can beat Sidious on his own, then of course Dooku and Maul combined would/should pose a serious threat to Sidious.
Maul is above all three individually... not all three together. Mace could do nothing to prevent them all getting killed; two of them before Mace and Sidious had crossed blades.
Maul is only one, not two, not three. Sidious should be able to kill Maul like he did the Jedi and then kill Dooku after a moderate fight.
To be honest, the team that attempted to arrest Palpatine is better than this team.
Originally posted by Intrepid37
Maul is above all three individually... not all three together.
True. And I wouldn't expect Maul to overpower the 3 of them together.
But being better than any of them will be the difference between being blitz and being a factor. After all one of those 3 has given Mace a hard time sparring. Yet Mace being better does not get blitzed. So just being better makes a difference.
I'm curious now the team people think it would take to put down Sidious if said team does not include Mace or Yoda.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
True. And I wouldn't expect Maul to overpower the 3 of them together.But being better than any of them will be the difference between being blitz and being a factor. After all one of those 3 has given Mace a hard time sparring. Yet Mace being better does not get blitzed. So just being better makes a difference.
I'm curious now the team people think it would take to put down Sidious if said team does not include Mace or Yoda.
Skywalker, Kenobi, Shaak Ti, Plo Koon, Ki-Adi Mundi, and Kit Fisto.
So essentially you'd need half the Council.
Dooku, on his best day, being considerably amped by a dark side nexus, couldn't even defeat Yoda, Sidious' equal, on what was perhaps Yoda's worse day, having his light side powers diminished and struggling to fight off the temptations of the dark side (not exactly the best state of mind for fighting one's best), so I'm not sure how Dooku has a chance at scoring a victory over Sidious.
Going by the logic here, I guess Ventress can take one victory out of ten against Dooku.
Yoda was also wounded at the start of their fight on Vjun, yet Dooku still couldn't beat him.
Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Holy shit what?Also I selected people who I think wouldn't be immediately blitzed and pwned by the Emperor.
Its in Silvers Respect thread. Sadly the actual images seem defunct.
As an aside, this is also an interesting read and good collection of quotes.