Hulk vs Superman

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Originally posted by -Pr-
No, the fact that you're lowballing does.
I dont lowball any character. If i hear that any character, and that goes for hulk, thanos, thor, gladiator, hyperion, beta ray bill and any other, if i read someone stating that ANY of those character can do this or that, i simply ask for proof. I ask for a scan showing the said character doing it on panel. If the proof never comes, then i reject the claim. I can make a claim all day, but if i show no proof, then my argument has no ground to stand on. Even a courtroom judge wants proof or the badguy walks free. I can claim that my car can run 175 mph, you think that will get me in a 175 mph car club? I have to get my car clocked at that speed to verify my claim so that i can join. Now if they clock my car at only 145, i cannot join and i lied to them. Same thing with superman, fans make claims, people ask for proof and get insulted and shown scans of superman being far far slower or not living up to that claim or twisting scans.

carver9 Senior Member
Originally posted by Odekahn
I don't need to provide a scan, it's common sense. Superman benched the weight of earth for 5 days. If you think Hulk starts off with that kind of strength then you are blinded by fanboyism.

LOL...so you are basing it off of one showing. Hype held two universes back, prevent both from colliding and Hulk matched him. Your point is poop...especially with you using ONE high showing. Hulk has planetary showing since the beginning of his being. Like I said, Hulk walk around at high Herald strength and YOU haven't provided a single scan proving otherwise.

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Since the beginning of his being?

carver9 Senior Member
Originally posted by Zack Fair
Since the beginning of his being?

Yes; Bruce Banner walk around with high herald strength as well.

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Odekahn 7399
Originally posted by JBL
But in the same book was not strong enough to break the grip of a dragon like creature. He never benched the earth, so going by some womans calculations is a bit shaky.If you want to test two characters, then go by them doing similar things like trying to destroy a large body. How about if a so-called hulk fan tell you that superman knocked himself out ramming a shadow moon at near lightspeed. It was a flight and some strength feat. Now hulk destroyed an asteriod TWICE the size of earth going FAR slower than superman, meaning hulk had FAR less mass to aid him. And hulk was not KOED. But that would make me a " blinded hulk fanboy" if i were to bring this up huh? Superman fans have some nerve sometime when the big blue is said to lose.WOW!

So you are willing to give Hulk all the credit when he was launched at the asteroid? He was nothing more than a glorified bullet.

And the WRITER of the book was the one who invented the calculation. You are ignoring facts about Hulk's feat and adding to Superman's. That's what fanboys do.

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by Odekahn
So you are willing to give Hulk all the credit when he was launched at the asteroid? He was nothing more than a glorified bullet.

And the WRITER of the book was the one who invented the calculation. You are ignoring facts about Hulk's feat and adding to Superman's. That's what fanboys do.

LOL...Hulk strength, durability, and the aid of flight assisted with that ft..same with the Superman ft. The only difference is, Hulk tanked his and the asteroid was twice the size of Earth. Big difference my friend.

Odekahn 7399
Originally posted by carver9
LOL...so you are basing it off of one showing. Hype held two universes back, prevent both from colliding and Hulk matched him. Your point is poop...especially with you using ONE high showing. Hulk has planetary showing since the beginning of his being. Like I said, Hulk walk around at high Herald strength and YOU haven't provided a single scan proving otherwise.

No, I just gave 1 example. I'm at work and on my iPhone.

Show me Savage Hulk starting out as planetary.

Odekahn 7399
Originally posted by carver9
LOL...Hulk strength, durability, and the aid of flight assisted with that ft..same with the Superman ft. The only difference is, Hulk tanked his and the asteroid was twice the size of Earth. Big difference my friend.

No... The Superman feat was his strength. He wasn't flying, he was pushing and pulling for 5 days.

Flying/being launched and plowing through a planet/asteroid comes a dime a dozen. Pushing and pulling a planet is different.

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by Odekahn
No, I just gave 1 example. I'm at work and on my iPhone.

Show me Savage Hulk starting out as planetary.

Prove to me that Hulk doesn't start at high Herald strength. I can post a scan stating that Savage was releasing planetary power but whats the point, especially since Grey Hulk busted open a double size earth planetary object by his lonesome or Savage Hulk powering through planetary power. Or a guy that was shedding planets with ease use all of his power on Hulk and Hulk powered through it without trouble. Again, prove that Hulk doesn't start off at high Herald strength.

Hulk can jump from 0 to 1 billion with a thought.

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by Odekahn
No... The Superman feat was his strength. He wasn't flying, he was pushing and pulling for 5 days.

Flying/being launched and plowing through a planet/asteroid comes a dime a dozen. Pushing and pulling a planet is different.

Not talking about that ft, talking about pre reboot ft where he rammed into the moon.

Grey Hulk ft is a planetary ft as well.

Odekahn 7399

Originally posted by carver9
Prove to me that Hulk doesn't start at high Herald strength. I can post a scan stating that Savage was releasing planetary power but whats the point, especially since Grey Hulk busted open a double size earth planetary object by his lonesome or Savage Hulk powering through planetary power. Or a guy that was shedding planets with ease use all of his power on Hulk and Hulk powered through it without trouble. Again, prove that Hulk doesn't start off at high Herald strength.

Hulk can jump from 0 to 1 billion with a thought.

The burden of proof is on you. I don't have to prove a negative.

iscaremonkeys Senior Member

in a battle Hulk but in an arm wrestling contest Superman.
Superman carried the earth without waiting to get stronger. that beats base strength 100 tons

Odekahn 7399

Originally posted by carver9
Not talking about that ft, talking about pre reboot ft where he rammed into the moon.

Grey Hulk ft is a planetary ft as well.

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No one was talking about the Moon. We were talking about the bench pressing feat and then you said flight assisted Superman.

Me thinks you've got your feats mixed up.

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by Odekahn
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No one was talking about the Moon. We were talking about the bench pressing feat and then you said flight assisted Superman.

Me thinks you've got your feats mixed up.

JBL brought up the moon ft and you disputed him/her.

Odekahn 7399
Originally posted by carver9
JBL brought up the moon ft and you disputed him/her.

Ah ok, I see what you meant.

BTW, how mad do you think Hulk was when he was struggling to hold up that mountain in Secret Wars?

carver9 Senior Member

He wasn't mad at all. Thats why Reed (or Spiderman, cant remember) tried to make him angry during the time he was holding it up.

carver9 Senior Member

Ironman recent showings against the Hulk didn't go so well.

Odekahn 7399
Originally posted by carver9
He wasn't mad at all. Thats why Reed (or Spiderman, cant remember) tried to make him angry during the time he was holding it up.

It was Reed, and yes Reed made him mad so he could hold it up.

Odekahn 7399
Originally posted by carver9
Ironman recent showings against the Hulk didn't go so well.

Superman would beat Ironman too.

carver9 Senior Member
Originally posted by Odekahn
It was Reed, and yes Reed made him mad so he could hold it up.

No, Reed made him mad so that he can keep it up (and possibly not turn back to Banner since he was at a Calm state) but the latest showing (remake) proves that Hulk didn't need Reed assistance.