Originally posted by JBL
I dont lowball any character. If i hear that any character, and that goes for hulk, thanos, thor, gladiator, hyperion, beta ray bill and any other, if i read someone stating that ANY of those character can do this or that, i simply ask for proof. I ask for a scan showing the said character doing it on panel. If the proof never comes, then i reject the claim. I can make a claim all day, but if i show no proof, then my argument has no ground to stand on. Even a courtroom judge wants proof or the badguy walks free. I can claim that my car can run 175 mph, you think that will get me in a 175 mph car club? I have to get my car clocked at that speed to verify my claim so that i can join. Now if they clock my car at only 145, i cannot join and i lied to them. Same thing with superman, fans make claims, people ask for proof and get insulted and shown scans of superman being far far slower or not living up to that claim or twisting scans.
If you want to play dumb, then fine, play dumb. I honestly don't mind. It won't change how this ends up if you keep it up. You've been banned from this site before, so it's not like you don't know what's coming.
Originally posted by JBLHe benched pressed the earth because that was the plot, that was what was shown, and what the writer intended. Who are you to take away what the writer intended? It's not mentioned anywhere in the story that superman pretended to bench the earth.
But in the same book was not strong enough to break the grip of a dragon like creature. He never benched the earth, so going by some womans calculations is a bit shaky.If you want to test two characters, then go by them doing similar things like trying to destroy a large body. How about if a so-called hulk fan tell you that superman knocked himself out ramming a shadow moon at near lightspeed. It was a flight and some strength feat. Now hulk destroyed an asteriod TWICE the size of earth going FAR slower than superman, meaning hulk had FAR less mass to aid him. And hulk was not KOED. But that would make me a " blinded hulk fanboy" if i were to bring this up huh? Superman fans have some nerve sometime when the big blue is said to lose.WOW!
You are lowballing by mentioning a low showing for superman knowing good and well that characters fluctuate, even in the same comic. Otherwise there would be no such thing as low or high showings or even PIS.
The low showings you name is superman can't break the grip, superman had to go faster and got KOED (even though the hulk comic said the jet boots helped him do the feat).
Originally posted by carver9hype wasn't even at planetary strength when hulk matched him. That's like saying that anyone who matched gladiator has matched planet destroying force (even colossus).
LOL...so you are basing it off of one showing. Hype held two universes back, prevent both from colliding and Hulk matched him. Your point is poop...especially with you using ONE high showing. Hulk has planetary showing since the beginning of his being. Like I said, Hulk walk around at high Herald strength and YOU haven't provided a single scan proving otherwise.
You can't take a character's highest feat and equate that to any character that matches them. Otherwise spidey would have planet destroying strength.
High Herald strength ranges from 500 tons to heavenly body tonnage.
So hulk starting at high Herald level doesn't mean he is close to Superman. Bracing a mountain is high Herald level but that feat isn't a speck of dust to benching the Earth one rep (phuck 5 days).