Darth Malak runs the gauntlet!

ultimately, PoD bane is impressive, and prolly better than half the people i put ahead of him, but i still think malak is better, if only slightly

Nah, the guy hasn't demonstrated anything that would put him ahead of Bane in my books. Already Bane has high-calibre Force powers and extreme skill, strength and speed in lightsaber combat.

would you say PoD bane is stronger than darth revan/ light revan?

Well we know nothing about Darth Revan, making him a total unknown, but I don't think he's above Light Revan. But Malak needed the Star Forge amp and the ability to regenerate himself multiple times by nomming on those Jedi Masters to give Revan a good fight, even after Revan had had to fight through the Star Forge and beat Bastila. By the end of KotOR Revan clearly was far superior to Diet Malak.

im talking about his fight where he beat light revan on the leviathan, aka a neutral ground

Ah, then yes. What had Revan even done at that point? Beaten Juhani? 😬

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
im talking about his fight where he beat light revan on the leviathan, aka a neutral ground

He did?. Can you show me where?. Not that im doubting you, I just havint played KOTOR in a really long time.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
lemme link the fight

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLjd0XNsa4A

skip to 8:50, he has revan beat till bastila saves the day

beat the entire leviathan crew, beat darth bandon (prty sure malak said bastila would be a more powerful apprentice tho, despite that malak also kicked her ass.) re-learned the jedi ways in a matter of weeks, (possibly) soloed 2 large terrentateks (srry if i misspelled.) also, is it canonical that he slew uthar wynn, the leader of the korriban academy?

edit: im referencing revan's accomplishments

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
beat the entire leviathan crew, beat darth bandon (prty sure malak said bastila would be a more powerful apprentice tho, despite that malak also kicked her ass.) re-learned the jedi ways in a matter of weeks, (possibly) soloed 2 large terrentateks (srry if i misspelled.) also, is it canonical that he slew uthar wynn, the leader of the korriban academy?

edit: im referencing revan's accomplishments

Thanks for sending me the link buddy.

Ok. So he would proabably beat DoE Bane. Then he loses at 6 or 7 imo.

Originally posted by ROTJ Vader
Thanks for sending me the link buddy.

no problem 🙂

Edit: also another matter: did bastila team up with revan to defeat malak? if not, then bastila was most likely also using battle meditation to help revan

Edit #2: i did some quick research, and it is highly likely that bastila's battle meditation was helping revan in his battle against malak

Originally posted by ROTJ Vader
Ok. So he would proabably beat DoE Bane. Then he loses at 6 or 7 imo.

hmm, that's arguable. all in all, i'd say DoE bane is stronger than darth malak, tho not by much

lol seems like malak is alot more impressive than people thought

Revan and Malak have been regarded as CHAMPION Force-users in multiple canon sources thus far:-

1. Star Wars: Darth Bane: Path of Destruction
2. Star Wars: The Jedi Path: A manual for students of the Force*

*Only Revan and Malak identified as CHAMPION Force-users in this source.

Even Plagueis acknowledged powers of Malak and Revan and used them as examples to tutor Sidious. One such example given in the novel.

Bane was in awe of Revan's understanding of the ways of the Force. In addition, Malak was the third toughest opponent that Revan ever encountered in his life after Sith Emperor and an Imperial Strike Team. Therefore, it is reasonable to assume that Malak was immensely powerful during his reign as a ruler of a Sith Empire.

In-fact, Malak held his own against the trio of Revan, Carth and Bastilla aboard Leviathan.

The issue with Malak is lack of quality novels written about him. On top of this, outdated game-mechanics of KoTOR game do not reflect positively on his capabilities.

I think that Malak can clear this list, if he is fully healed after each encounter.

PoD Bane would still beat him. Malak suuuucks!

^^^

Unlikely! DoE bane possibly can.

By the way, I seriously doubt that Kolar and Maul can match Bane and Malak.

DoE 'possibly' can? aweroll

Malak has nothing in the way of feats or accolades that make him a particularly skilled or potent swordsman close to Banes level. He has nothing indicating his ability with the Force approaches what Bane is capable of. He's got nothing showing him as being an overall combatant in the same ballpark as Bane. He is completely out of his league.

If this thread were made a few years ago it would probably get shut down since Malak is a near-unknown.

Also I don't like him. sneer

Originally posted by Nephthys
DoE 'possibly' can? aweroll

Malak has nothing in the way of feats or accolades that make him a particularly skilled or potent swordsman close to Banes level. He has nothing indicating his ability with the Force approaches what Bane is capable of. He's got nothing showing him as being an overall combatant in the same ballpark as Bane. He is completely out of his league.

If this thread were made a few years ago it would probably get shut down since Malak is a near-unknown.

But should we overlook the fact that Malak effectively ran a whole Sith Empire in absence of Revan? This accomplishment alone is testament to Malak's enormous power. During this time, he fell only to Revan and no one else.

You may argue that Malak on SF is not his normal self but Malak held his own against overwhelming odds even in a neutral setting.

So at holistic level, (Darth) Malak is apparently not inferior to Bane in any context.

I hope that Malak gets some quality exploration in future works of canon.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Also I don't like him. sneer

I read up on malak's powers and abilities on wookie, it says he could use malgus-like force screams and rage enhancers. add that with his force mastery, and he's pretty frickin powerful, possibly dark council level or higher

Edit: actually Legend, malak manages to defeat revan on the leviathan, until he gets saved by bastila, who then proceeds to get her ass kicked by malak (being that malak beats her with relative ease, and considering she's powerful in her own right, that equals..)

also, agen kolar is considered one of the best swordsmen ever produced by the jedi order, putting him on-par if not ahead of malak in terms of saber combat, as i don't believe he ever recieves such a distinction. and TCW Maul is actually competent with the force (lifts giant republic gunship while injured). plus he has stalemated kenobi multiple times, and on one occasion beats him. that and he survives a decent amount of time against sidious.