Thank you.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
How is Maul not part of the Master-apprentice chain? And no, I wouldn't put him above Plagueis at this point because I wouldn't put Palpatine above Plagueis at that point.Do I think he could have surpassed Plagueis? It's not outside the realm of possibility.
Mauls not part of the chain of apprentices surpassing their masters, since he did not surpass Sidious. Therefore he can't be said to be above Bane by virtue of that line of logic.
Ok, I can agree that its not unreasonable to think that he could become that powerful, but that fact is that Maul didn't. He was killed before he could challenge Sidious or fulfill his potential, whatever that may have been. Therefore he's still exempt from the quote and the RoT line.
Neph, when not surrounded by the haze of bad writing and unoriginality that is SWTORwell, anything he really likes... isn't entirely without talent.
But Silver is perhaps the foremost authority on Palpatine in the interwebz, perhaps beyond even myself. It is possible that he could be... the Reborn Gideon.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Interesting line in Sith Hunters: That Maul survived be cleaved in two because his rage was so powerful and because "His Knowledge of the Dark Side was so Great."Although it's Kenobi explaining it, but seems like it was Filoni and Katie Lucas who put that line in to explain how Maul survived- They get a special thanks at the end of the comic.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
And until such a time as Bane is identified as an exception, I see no reason to treat him as though he were. Just like, in a retarded fashion typical of SWTOR, I do not assume the non-Force sensitive Han Solo can use the Force or is in some respect Force-resistant in a fight just because Vitiate's non-Force sensitive Imperial Guard is and are.Perhaps. But even after a considerable period of training, Palpatine's own powers swelled between Endor and Byss. So there again, I see no reason to believe that Maul was running out of midi-juice or that, just because he's not close to Palpatine doesn't mean he's not close to Bane.
Palpatine is more powerful than Bane.
I accept your conclusion. But the Bane line wasn't an absolute linear progression.
Otherwise, if Sidious at his peak is 100, and every sith were 5% stronger at their peak than their master, and a new generation of sith were born, say, every 25 years...
Darth Bane would only be around 16% of Palpatine's power.
Yeah, it's like the flynn effect. Sidious > Bane, but IMO, Bane at his peak> everybody in his line except Palpatine and Plagueis.
Bane wore orbalisks, which induces pain, when he created 12 after images to Zannah who wasn't at her peak. She presumably grows stronger by the third book.
Blaster bolts fly faster than rain.
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... finality of a meteor strike.
Two, three, and four. Oh, thought Obi-Wan with detached approval. That worked out rather well. Only ten thousand to go. Give or take. An instant later the Force had him hurtling through a storm of blasterfire as every combat droid in the control center opened up on him at once. Letting go of intention, letting go of desire, letting go of life, Obi-Wan fixed his entire attention on a thread of the Force that pulled him toward Grievous: not where Grievous was, but where Grievous would be when Obi-Wan got there...
Leaping girder to girder, slashing cables on which to swing through swarms of ricocheting particle beams, blade flickering so fast it became a deflector shield that splattered blaster bolts in all directions, his presence alone became a weapon: as he spun and whirled through the control center's superstructure, the blasts of particle cannons from power droids destroyed equipment and shattered girders and unleashed a torrent of red-hot debris that crashed to the deck, crushing droids on all sides. By the time he flipped down through the air to land cat-footed on the deck once more, nearly half the droids between him and Grievous had been destroyed by their own not-so-friendly fire. He cut his way into the mob of remaining troops as smoothly as if it were no more than a canebrake near some sunlit beach; his steady pace left behind a trail of smoking slices of droid.
"Keep firing!" Grievous roared to the spider droids that flanked him. "Blast him!"
"
And you know, a few pages after that it shows that Grievous's 20 strikes per second was too fast for Kenobi's defenses to shrug off. Logically he shouldn't be able to deflect more than 25-ish blaster bolts over second, which is re-Inforced by that statement that the best Soresu masters could even defend against nearly 30 shooters or something.
Bane's deflecting Rain feat shows us similar magnitude in terms of speed and skill with blast deflection and whatnot.
Also--Just curious--If Dooku could ragdoll Kenobi, why couldn't Bane? Lol. I don't see how he loses this.
Originally posted by pencilcrayon
EU feats on an EU forum?An EU character vs EU depictions of another character?
If we go by movies only, then Bane doesn't really exist at all. All the Jedi move at human speed since the actors are only capable of moving that fast. Anakin is only slightly faster than Padme, going by the movies.
Grievious specifically orders his men NOT to fire on Kenobi in the movie. Kenobi does not have to fight to get to him, nor defend himself at all from blasterfire in that scene.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
And you know, a few pages after that it shows that Grievous's 20 strikes per second was too fast for Kenobi's defenses to shrug off. Logically he shouldn't be able to deflect more than 25-ish blaster bolts over second, which is re-Inforced by that statement that the best Soresu masters could even defend against nearly 30 shooters or something.
Except that Grievous doesn't even attack him 20 times before Kenobi takes his first hand........
Originally posted by Intrepid37
Because Bane isn't as powerful as Dooku?
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