Originally posted by Cogito
Bloodwynd had different powers, not more powerful powers.I would definitely challenge you to prove otherwise.
Originally posted by cdtm
When he was distracted after Flash ripped him from Warworld, leaving him open to her assault.
Originally posted by Cogito
The number of powers does not make one more powerful.Show me more powerful applications of power via real feats.
Originally posted by abhilegend
J'onn with added powers>J'onn with normal powers? He was also stated to be more powerful than superman in Bloodwynd form while Superman was stated to be more powerful than J'onn just a few issues later.
Statements =/= facts
Bloodwynd got steamrolled by DD, while Superman held his own.
Originally posted by Cogito
That's a bit of an exaggeration.Besides, Superman wasn't KO'd with ridiculous ease as Bloodwynd was.
So does he or does he not have feats to actually support your claim that Bloodwynd is more powerful than MM?
Even if you think Bloodwynd was at least as powerful as J'onn, maxima still outperformed him.
Originally posted by abhilegend
J'onn with added powers>J'onn with normal powers? He was also stated to be more powerful than superman in Bloodwynd form while Superman was stated to be more powerful than J'onn just a few issues later.
When did Superman get stated as being more powerful then MM?
Was it MM, or Bloodwynd MM?
Originally posted by cdtm
When he was distracted after Flash ripped him from Warworld, leaving him open to her assault.
Ummm no. Brainiac is not a match for Maxima without Warworld. Period. That's how he was able to keep her on his side all throughout Panic In The Sky, albeit with Maxima keeping Brainiac from 'hearing' her plot behind his back. Brainiac even says coming off the heels of a TP duel and getting his Warworld tubes cut, "I must reconnect! Without its vast power I am..'
"You are as good as dead! - Maxima
Originally posted by Arabus
[B]Ummm no. Brainiac is not a match for Maxima without Warworld. Period.
To quote Quanchi: Based on?
Brainiac even says coming off the heels of a TP duel and getting his Warworld tubes cut, "I must reconnect! Without its vast power I am..'
Because with an army of heroes virtually right outside the door, he was obviously thinking about a duel with Maxima when he said that. 🙄
Originally posted by cdtm
When did Superman get stated as being more powerful then MM?Was it MM, or Bloodwynd MM?
Originally posted by Cogito
It's a simple yes or no question, and this is my third time repeating it. I'm not attacking you, so just answer it.Does Bloodwynd have the feats or not?
Originally posted by cdtm
To quote Quanchi: Based on?Because with an army of heroes virtually right outside the door, he was obviously thinking about a duel with Maxima when he said that. 🙄
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He was dueling Maxima who was actually putting up a fight, even with the Warworld upgrade, she's still right there in front of him, and his immediate concern are the heroes who are in the room next door trying to get past a Warworld energy field?
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Originally posted by Arabus
?He was dueling Maxima who was actually putting up a fight, even with the Warworld upgrade,
Put up a fight? He streamrolled her while hooked up to Warworld.
What's your basis for arguing Maxima is a more powerful telepath than Brainiac? Maxima's never managed to take down Superman with her tp, while Brainiac has, on several occasions...
And then there's the "Dead Again" story. Brainiac is on New Genesis, in another dimension from Earth's, and uses his tp to convince Superman and the entire planet that his body is still in his tomb..
Originally posted by cdtm
Put up a fight? He streamrolled her while hooked up to Warworld.
I don't know what comic you're looking at, but Brainiac says on page 17, "...even your vaunted psionic power can't beat the combination of Brainiac and Warworld!" to which Maxima responds, "Prove your claims". Both of them start blasting each other as if their psionic bolts are canceling each other out.
Page 18 cuts to a scene with Batman and Nightwing. Page 19 now shows Maxima on her knees losing the duel while a pained Flash crawls over to some shards of glass while he narrates "Nerves are still jangling from that blast -- But I've gotta do something! This shard of glass -- Probably our last chance!" Flash flings the glass at Brainiac's connector cables, Brainiac starts to get up out of the Warworld command chair, and Maxima starts blasting him immediately.
So yeah, calling it a steamroll is pretty inaccurate.
Originally posted by cdtm
What's your basis for arguing Maxima is a more powerful telepath than Brainiac? [/B]
What, giving Brainiac a lobotomy isn't enough?
In the same story, she grabbed Orion's wrist from behind. This registers with Orion when he narrates 'What? Someone dares grab me from behind?" then, while maintaining her grip on his wrist to keep him at arm's length, we see her in the next panel blasting him in the face. Orion eventually goes unconscious. So while this feat doesn't put her over, it helped set the stage for the lobotomy by putting her in the ballpark of also being able to drop a New God as Brainiac did earlier in the story with Metron.
