DCNU Martian Manhunter VS Hulk NOW

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...are you sure he hasn't done anything as impressive as the Doomsday showing?

Also, you might want to look at Cryptoman before this. Hellava impressive ft. You'll be hard pressed to show any durability fts worth mentioning for Doomsday and let's not forget that Superman nearly burnt him to a crisp before hand with heat vision.

Lol...Sentry got taken out with a single punch from Blue Marvel and worked by Herc...his mindset excuse can only take you so far. Every last one of these characters have losses which makes your argument pretty bad. Now you're resorting to high fts.

... Carver I'm talking about Marvel Now! Hulk. He hasn't done anything more impressive than Nu 52 Superman's Doomsday feat.... And I am not dogging Sentry for getting caught slipping by the Blue Marvel, besides the Blue Marvel is a highly VERSATILE high herald and that happens. Hulk couldn't do that to Sentry in his dreams. And really the Hercules thing again? Why don't you bring up the she hulk thing too? You do realize that if Sentry actually wanted to he could have killed Hercules and she hulk correct? I can't believe you even brought that silly shuffle up. Hulk on the other hand was actually engaged in combat and got one-shotted by Sungod via heat blast while he had the advantage on top which is even more embarrassing.

Originally posted by carver9
Aaaaahhhhh...is that what he's talking about? There's clearly a difference in both of Pak's responses.

Basically and in any instance of interviews writers can run their mouths as much as they want, it does not change a thing if they don't show it on panel.

Does WBH has a feat like MMH? 🙂

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Basically and in any instance of interviews writers can run their mouths as much as they want, it does not change a thing if they don't show it on panel.

Does WBH has a feat like MMH? 🙂

👆 Exactly. For example. Hickman said Hulk will be the most powerful in his new Avengers squad and will be impressive under his pen. Yet Hulk has so far been getting wrecked, embarrassed and rendered useless.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Basically and in any instance of interviews writers can run their mouths as much as they want, it does not change a thing if they don't show it on panel.

Does WBH has a feat like MMH? 🙂

👆

Originally posted by dial J for Josh
... Carver I'm talking about Marvel Now! Hulk. He hasn't done anything more impressive than Nu 52 Superman's Doomsday feat.... And I am not dogging Sentry for getting caught slipping by the Blue Marvel, besides the Blue Marvel is a highly VERSATILE high herald and that happens. Hulk couldn't do that to Sentry in his dreams. And really the Hercules thing again? Why don't you bring up the she hulk thing too? You do realize that if Sentry actually wanted to he could have killed Hercules and she hulk correct? I can't believe you even brought that silly shuffle up. Hulk on the other hand was actually engaged in combat and got one-shotted by Sungod via heat blast while he had the advantage on top which is even more embarrassing.

It is so out of character for either Hulk or Superman to rip someone in half. Who has Hulk even attempted that on? You're talking about Hulk now, who has Hulk now fought that he attempted to rip someone in half? Is that in character for him? Hell, is that even in character for Superman. Hulk did fight Abomination but he was weakened. Hulk ripped through an amped Ironman with ease. I can even argue that Ironman has better durability fts than Doomsday since, well, he doesn't really have any. Hulk turned his armor to paper weight, something that has never happened to Ironman, even against the most powerful of beings. If you are asking me if Hulk will do this, attempt to rip someone in half then no, it will never happen because it isn't in character for him but he has ripped substances that is far durable than Doomsday with ease.

One shotted by sun god? Did you even see the fight. This version of Superman lost to an intangible girl with no fts. He got KILLED by an amped Batman that broke his neck with a single punch. You throwing off defeats of Hulk and forgetting about Superman again, isn't helping your case here.

Originally posted by dial J for Josh
👆 Exactly. For example. Hickman said Hulk will be the most powerful in his new Avengers squad and will be impressive under his pen. Yet Hulk has so far been getting wrecked, embarrassed and rendered useless.

Who has he been wrecked by? Every writer consider Hulk as the most powerful but he isn't going to beat everyone just like Superman isnt. For someone that likes Sentry so much, I'm surprised at you talking about characters wins and losses. Hell, Hyperion just got choked and thrown across the state by a low Herald.

If anyone is interested in seeing Superman getting killed by Batman, here you go...

http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/snapshot4_zps9d272f98.jpg.html?sort=9&o=186
http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/snapshot5_zps1c5ad75e.jpg.html?sort=9&o=198

He ended up dying and was able to join the game.

Originally posted by carver9
If anyone is interested in seeing Superman getting killed by Batman, here you go...

http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/snapshot4_zps9d272f98.jpg.html?sort=9&o=186
http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/snapshot5_zps1c5ad75e.jpg.html?sort=9&o=198

He ended up dying and was able to join the game.

👆 Now I am convinced, superman can do anything he wants. Even letting himself die at the hands of Batman to join a video game session.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Does WBH has a feat like MMH? 🙂

I'm as big of a WBH skeptic as you can get without being retarded but the implication that MM is stronger than WBH because of his recent feat is a joke.

Originally posted by carver9
Who has he been wrecked by? Every writer consider Hulk as the most powerful but he isn't going to beat everyone just like Superman isnt. For someone that likes Sentry so much, I'm surprised at you talking about characters wins and losses. Hell, Hyperion just got choked and thrown across the state by a low Herald.

.....Carver! Really? Are you talking about Avengers World #6 where Hyperion was talking to a mind-controlled Smasher and begging her to snap out of it? While she was choking him he was literally talking to her trying to help.... When she bfred him guess what he did. While he was floating in the air he ignored the fact that he was attacked and started to reminisce about his old world and his philosophy on his new purpose of life. You do realize that he could have easily ripped off smashers head right? But you know..... She is kinda his team mate and he tried helping her. God you are so petty trying to spin an insignificant scenario to benefit your agenda. Nice try though 👆

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Complete horseshit conclusion out of this question and you know it.

I'm as big of a WBH skeptic as you can get without being retarded but the implication that MM is stronger than WBH because of his recent feat is a joke.

😈

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Complete horseshit conclusion out of this question and you know it.

I'm as big of a WBH skeptic as you can get without being retarded but the implication that MM is stronger than WBH because of his recent feat is a joke.

Originally posted by dial J for Josh
.....Carver! Really? Are you talking about Avengers World #6 where Hyperion was talking to a mind-controlled Smasher and begging her to snap out of it? While she was choking him he was literally talking to her trying to help.... When she bfred him guess what he did. While he was floating in the air he ignored the fact that he was attacked and started to reminisce about his old world and his philosophy on his new purpose of life. You do realize that he could have easily ripped off smashers head right? But you know..... She is kinda his team mate and he tried helping her. God you are so petty trying to spin an insignificant scenario to benefit your agenda. Nice try though 👆

Your argument is flawed though. Not a reasonable argument at all. Just think about all of Thor, Sentry, Surfer, Hulks, Supermans, and WW loses and then you'll come to a conclusion and see how flawed your argument is. You keep bringing up Sun God for some strange reason not realizing that these people have lost to far worse. I'm not going to sit here and say Hulk is this unbeatable character because each writer has a different perception of these characters. Pak literally thought of Hulk as this unbeatable character sans Skyfathers. Waid also thinks of Hulk as the same, but at the same time, Hulk has losses under him. Crazy thing is, when Hulk get a loss, it clings to people minds (not all) but when other main heros lose, you want to forget about it or say that his mind wasn't right during the moment, not realizing that Hulk powers fluctuates as well. At least be consistent with your argument. If you are going to say one thing about one character, share the wealth with the other. You saying that Sentry mind wasn't in the game during all of his losses, can I say Hulk wasn't as powerful as he should he due to his anger levels (remember, he did take an antidote before the fight)? Pretty sure you won't accept it though. You don't have to accept what Pak said but your attempts at calling out Hulk losses is what stirred the pot. You should've at least thought about Superman defeats as well. Tried to do some type of comparison.

^ So before I adress this. You admit to spinning the Hyperion/Smasher scenario to fit your agenda? Say yes or no.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Basically and in any instance of interviews writers can run their mouths as much as they want, it does not change a thing if they don't show it on panel.

Does WBH has a feat like MMH? 🙂

You don't suspect that J'onn may get his due in the near future? Keep flapping those gums. The Hulk has reality warping feats. Go check out the respect forum before going all MM crazy on us. All characters get their butts handed to them except for the plot characters. J'onn is not a plot character.

Originally posted by Stoic
You don't suspect that J'onn may get his due in the near future? Keep flapping those gums. The Hulk has reality warping feats. Go check out the respect forum before going all MM crazy on us. All characters get their butts handed to them except for the plot characters. J'onn is not a plot character.

Reality warping? That must have some sort of extenuating circumstances on it.

Also I put emphasis on single feats when people are trying to shove down our throats writers interviews that don't go according to the panel display

Carver is killing it up in here.

Originally posted by carver9
Sentry got taken out with a single punch from Blue Marvel

I love the people, who bring that up and the weirdest one are even like: "Oh, Blue Marvel defeated Sentry!"
Here is a breakdown on the fight:

- Sentry attacks Blue Marvel and clearly has the upper hand. He STOPS attacking Blue Marvel and gives him the option to give up:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/116291/2179407-1.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/116291/2179408-2.jpg

- Blue Marvel SUCKERPUNCHES the Sentry OFF PANEL and KOs him into the orbit:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/116291/2179409-3.jpg

- Only 3 panels later the Sentry speedblitzes Blue Marvel into the ground and obviously takes the same amount of damage in the process:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/116291/2179410-4.jpg

- Then they both stand up, but Blue Marvel collapses and gets unconscious due to the damage he has taken, while the Sentry is still fine. Hurt, but fine:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/116291/2179411-5.jpg

And all of that happened in a Blue Marvel comic, during his first appearance! You know, where characters usually get feats, so that everyone respects them and talks ab out them. Blue Marvel lost in his own comic during his first appearance, Carver!

And you basically gave Blue Marvel additional credit, by stating that he managed to KO the Sentry into the orbit, something WORLD WAR Hulk didn't even come close to, even though the Sentry was depowered and offering his face to Hulk's fist the entire time and smiling about it.

Blue Marvel > Hulk, lololo!

Originally posted by carver9
and worked by Herc...

1. Sentry wasn't serious at all about that encounter.
2. That wasn't even a fight. That was the Hercules writers trying to be funny.
3. Zeus got worked in these "comics".

Originally posted by Enzeru
I love the people, who bring that up and the weirdest one are even like: "Oh, Blue Marvel defeated Sentry!"
Here is a breakdown on the fight:

- Sentry attacks Blue Marvel and clearly has the upper hand. He STOPS attacking Blue Marvel and gives him the option to give up:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/116291/2179407-1.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/116291/2179408-2.jpg

- Blue Marvel SUCKERPUNCHES the Sentry OFF PANEL and KOs him into the orbit:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/116291/2179409-3.jpg

- Only 3 panels later the Sentry speedblitzes Blue Marvel into the ground and obviously takes the same amount of damage in the process:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/116291/2179410-4.jpg

- Then they both stand up, but Blue Marvel collapses and gets unconscious due to the damage he has taken, while the Sentry is still fine. Hurt, but fine:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/116291/2179411-5.jpg

And all of that happened in a Blue Marvel comic, during his first appearance! You know, where characters usually get feats, so that everyone respects them and talks ab out them. Blue Marvel lost in his own comic during his first appearance, Carver!

And you basically gave Blue Marvel additional credit, by stating that he managed to KO the Sentry into the orbit, something WORLD WAR Hulk didn't even come close to, even though the Sentry was depowered and offering his face to Hulk's fist the entire time and smiling about it.

Blue Marvel > Hulk, lololo!

1. Sentry wasn't serious at all about that encounter.
2. That wasn't even a fight. That was the Hercules writers trying to be funny.
3. Zeus got worked in these "comics".

It's funny how you bring up sucker punching when the Sentry is the one launching sneak attacks. What would have happened if Adam had the mindset of Ultraman? He could have flown after Bob, and continued his assault on his KO'd body. Is this a correct assessment? It's also weird how Adam hits him, and he KO's Bob, while Bob dive bombed him from a great distance, and was incapable of KOing Adam.

Adam was holding back the entire time and trying to convince the Avengers while they were on the attack. You have a very skewed perspective on things. Again, if Adam was out for blood, he would have killed Bob if he flew up after him, and beat the mess out of while he was Ko'd.