DCNU Martian Manhunter VS Hulk NOW

Started by Branlor Swift11 pages

Originally posted by carver9
Couldn't agree more. You don't consider him as an abstract level even at half power (especially looking at the things he was doing during that mini)? If not, where do you place him power wise?
You couldn't agree more but you still disagree?

Half of an abstract's power at best though would be the correct response. Considering full Tweener is still below Galactus.

Originally posted by carver9
Who said I kept anything out? Based on his fts during that mini, he is still abstract imo.

Stop lying, backtracking, pretending and spilling your biased opinion about this "feat".
Give me a real feat, a feat I asked you for, lifting/pushing/benchpressing. You still can't. You know why? Because Hulk is just Aquaman level strength, simple.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
You couldn't agree more but you still disagree?

Half of an abstract's power at best though would be the correct response. Considering full Tweener is still below Galactus.

When did i say half or gave ANY percentage? I said HE WAS STILL AN ABSTRACT. If you disagree, I don't freaking mind but don't accuse me of something I didn't say. PM on the way.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Stop lying, backtracking, pretending and spilling your biased opinion about this "feat".
Give me a real feat, a feat I asked you for, lifting/pushing/benchpressing. You still can't. You know why? Because Hulk is just Aquaman level strength, simple.

😂

Originally posted by carver9
😂

You do what court jesters do, you laugh because you got nothing, that is sad btw. Hulk Now is weak.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
You do what court jesters do, you laugh because you got nothing, that is sad btw. Hulk Now is weak.

I will post something but I'm sending something to someone right quick that still seems to be upset on my thoughts about Gladiator and Thanos.

Originally posted by carver9
I never said he was at full power. I said he was still ABSTRACT in power.
Couldn't agree more.

But your first words were "The In-Betweener, a cosmic abstract..."
Naturally when you're showing someone scans a huge omission of details is the best way to go about it. Nothing in your post hinted towards anything being wrong with IB. It'd be like me using Grey Hulk losing to someone and then use HOTM descriptions to describe Grey Hulk. He's still Hulk amirite dawg?

He was weaker and you tried to be sneaky about it. Simple really.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Not true, he was only half himself and did other things while holding Hulk.
This is far below MM feat. Faaaaar below.
This is not mind resistance. Sure it's easier to control a normal mind than the mind of an retard like Hulk. You can still put Hulk to sleep or fool him, more than he fools himself when h screams "strongest one there is" before being koed.

Even at "half" power he still was causing universal chaos, MM helped to push a big ship. Impressive yes but comparable to a universal being exhausting " nearly all" of their power on you? Absolutely not.

You may have a point if Hulk was dumb but he has genius intellect now.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Stop lying, backtracking, pretending and spilling your biased opinion about this "feat".
Give me a real feat, a feat I asked you for, lifting/pushing/benchpressing. You still can't. You know why? Because Hulk is just Aquaman level strength, simple.
Originally posted by carver9
😂

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Couldn't agree more.

But your first words were "The In-Betweener, a cosmic abstract..."
Naturally when you're showing someone scans a huge omission of details is the best way to go about it. Nothing in your post hinted towards anything being wrong with IB. It'd be like me using Grey Hulk losing to someone and then use HOTM descriptions to describe Grey Hulk. He's still Hulk amirite dawg?

He was weaker and you tried to be sneaky about it. Simple really.

But yet, imo he is still Abstract in power. Sneaky doesn't have a thing to do with my intentions on his power level. Now back on topic because anything else you say to me in this thread will most def get ignored.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Oh I understand it was an impressive feat. The two halves were tearing apart the universe/multiverse and getting alt IGs and Phoenixes to do their bidding.

The issue however is Carver trying to say it's at full power (abstract, straight up just In-Betweener) when it's anything but. Not to mention the history of the feat being used on the forum has been used to get to some pretty ****ing shaky grounds.


Carver is a true Hulkamaniac, you guys should be used to him by now 😂

I can't speak for him but clearly it wasn't the intention of that particular feat to suggest Hulk = Inbetweener, or anywhere close to that level really. I do think it was a crazy strength/power/resistance (whatever) showing though, and if it were Superman or someone with an equally vocal group of supporters we would probably have never heard the end of it. I don't come on this board that often, so I might've missed a lot of the back and forth but I've actually hardly seen this feat discussed or brought up.

I think we all know Carver's intentions with using that feat. It's the same as the "big bang warworld" shit as you alluded to with if this happened in reverse.

But yeah, I've seen it brought up. Instead of being used as simply an awesome feat it's used as an attempt to prove "abstract strength". So if you understand my issue with it being brought up the way it was.

Originally posted by carver9
But yet, imo he is still Abstract in power. Sneaky doesn't have a thing to do with my intentions on his power level. Now back on topic because anything else you say to me in this thread will most def get ignored.
But he wasn't though. He was halfway at best. Trying to paint Savage Hulk as abstract strength to up Wb Hulk down the line isn't going to work when IB at full power barely scratches the surface of "abstract level".

Discussing the merits of Hulk's feat seems like a topic you brought up though. But this is a shock, you ignoring something that proves you ignorant.

I know you want to shut down Bat man Prime and who wouldn't, but lying by omission isn't the best way to go upon it. I mean the guy is repeatedly saying Hulk is Aquaman level. You really need to be that sneaky about it to prove a point?

Originally posted by Supermex
Even if MM was dreaming of him and Clayface fighting eachother, he still was getting beat by Clayface in it..

Clayface was about to kill him/Choke him out till someone stepped in to help MM..

It wasn't real. lol

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
But he wasn't though. He was halfway at best. Trying to paint Savage Hulk as abstract strength to up Wb Hulk down the line isn't going to work when IB at full power barely scratches the surface of "abstract level".

Discussing the merits of Hulk's feat seems like a topic you brought up though. But this is a shock, you ignoring something that proves you ignorant.

I know you want to shut down Bat man Prime and who wouldn't, but lying by omission isn't the best way to go upon it. I mean the guy is repeatedly saying Hulk is Aquaman level. You really need to be that sneaky about it to prove a point?

Lol...but that's the thing, even if he was at full power, I still wouldn't use it as a define strength cap for Hulk...it's just a high end ft and I should have included that part, I agree there but my intention was, he is abstract in power which is what I asked you before hand, if you disagreed or not.

Originally posted by Supermex
Even if MM was dreaming of him and Clayface fighting eachother, he still was getting beat by Clayface in it..

Clayface was about to kill him/Choke him out till someone stepped in to help MM..

lol?

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...but that's the thing, even if he was at full power, I still wouldn't use it as a define strength cap for Hulk...

Maaaaaaaaan...

Come on Carver. I know this is what you meant but I'm going to assume you mistyped judging from this conversation.

Wel I'll let you figure out what's wrong with that. Anyway keep going on with... this whatever this is.

So all we have is lying, an feat that is not really valid and vague at best and still no prove that Hulk now is anywhere near the likes of Supes or MM. Check.

Oh man this was easier than i though.

Imagine it the other way around. Hulk stopping this ship with Hyperion and me presenting this inbetweener non-feat to you as Supermans best, you would laugh, lowball the sh1t out of it and you would do everything but accept it. You would however put the jupiter+ sized ship feat above everything else and would never stop to bring it up in any debate involving Hulk.

That is the way you roll Carver. I hope you can at least understand this little bit now.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Carver is a true Hulkamaniac, you guys should be used to him by now 😂

I can't speak for him but clearly it wasn't the intention of that particular feat to suggest Hulk = Inbetweener, or anywhere close to that level really. I do think it was a crazy strength/power/resistance (whatever) showing though, and if it were Superman or someone with an equally vocal group of supporters we would probably have never heard the end of it. I don't come on this board that often, so I might've missed a lot of the back and forth but I've actually hardly seen this feat discussed or brought up.

Its never brought up tbh and I along with any others that brought it up said Hulk is abstract level in strength. It's just like any other strength ft, a high end one that will more than likely get brushed off.

The day has come at DC when arguably the weakest of the DC 'top tiers' in terms of strength (J'onn) is still demonstrably able to push Earth into the sun.

Good times.

Originally posted by Philosophía
The day has come at DC when arguably the weakest of the DC 'top tiers' in terms of strength (J'onn) is still demonstrably able to push Earth into the sun.

Good times.

👆 Earth? Maybe with his pinky, the Ship was bigger than Jupiter and not a Gasplanet but made out of Metal.

Good times indeed. Thor and Hulk get koed by Sue and humiliated by street level chars with superior speed while MM is beyond planetary strengh.