Originally posted by The Merchant
It just feels good, you know? But I wouldn't call Bane a failure. If it weren't for him Sidious would not have been as powerful. Well, he still would have been just not as strong as he became without Sith teachings.
Yes, Bane's ultimate accomplishment was being a stepping stone for an infinitely greater Sith Lord. I'd lump him alongside Vader and Dooku, if not for the fact that they directly factored in to Sidious's success whereas Bane only did so distantly.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
nihilus and vitiate were complete failures tho, especially vitiate, who plots the destruction of the republic for around 1,000 years, and still fails, while palpatine, through subtle manipulations, did it in FAR less time.
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Nihilus is a terrible character from start to finish. The whole Force wound concept is trite and the lolz force om nom is unforgivably cartoonish no matter who wields it (Palpatine included). Worse, he's only a Sith because Avellone lacked the balls or wherewithal to understand that an omnicidal eldrith creature wouldn't give a shit about Jedi or Sith and would feed indiscriminately.
Vitiate is... well... yes, a colossal failure. 1400 years to master the Force and the galaxy and fails spectacularly in both regards. And this is after devouring the essence of 8 thousand other Sith Lords.
Meanwhile Palpatine skips along and conquers the galaxy, defeats the Jedi and the Republic, and demonstrates a comparable command of the Force in... what? Decades?
Good God.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
👆Nihilus is a terrible character from start to finish. The whole Force wound concept is trite and the lolz force om nom is unforgivably cartoonish no matter who wields it (Palpatine included). Worse, he's only a Sith because Avellone lacked the balls or wherewithal to understand that an omnicidal eldrith creature wouldn't give a shit about Jedi or Sith and would feed indiscriminately.
Vitiate is... well... yes, a colossal failure. 1400 years to master the Force and the galaxy and fails spectacularly in both regards. And this is after devouring the essence of 8 thousand other Sith Lords.
Meanwhile Palpatine skips along and conquers the galaxy, defeats the Jedi and the Republic, and demonstrates a comparable command of the Force in... what? Decades?
Good God.
That is why Palpatine is and always will be, the greatest Sithlord and my favorite character. Nihilus is just terrible and Vitiate is a Sidious rip off.
Originally posted by The Merchant
What's the obsession with the technique Drain in general? Seems like every time someone is using it it's always either them being a huge monster with it like Nihilus, or they are Gods in the Force in general.
Worse is the fact that Avellone failed to recognize how cheap and retarded his vision of the Force drain really is... until the Exile had to square off with Nihilus, in which case Nihilus can't drain the Exile because the script says so.
Yeah, yeah, I understand the ostensible reason for its failure. "The Exile was Nihilus's polar opposite and so drains don't work lolz" but it's horribly thought out.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
😬That doesn't explain the fetishistic zeal with which you assume your task. I mean, I actually think Luke and Vader are pretty powerful... but don't prance from thread to endless thread wanking to them.
You seem to think Palpatine and Yoda are pretty powerful, but don't wank to them either.
The ones you are known to wank above all others are Bane, Nihilus, and Vitiate. I conclude from this that you are entranced by one-dimensional failures.
Palpatines power is already widely accepted. The only place where my opinion differs from the majority of people is in his relation to other powerful characters, where is held above almost all of them. In that case the only thing I have to argue is in their favor against him. Same for Yoda for the most part. The only real contenting opinion is Legend and I've told him I disagree with him on those matters and theres my reluctance to get into things with him in general.
I hold them in higher regard than other do, and thus am forced to defend my position on the matter. Also after so long arguing for them I will admit to being a bit invested in the arguments and characters.
Also I actually kinda like Nihilus and Bane. 🙂
Originally posted by Master Han
Hmm, let's test your theory.Neph, do you play TOR?
Yes. I'm playing it right now in fact.
Originally posted by The Merchant
What's the obsession with the technique Drain in general? Seems like every time someone is using it it's always either them being a huge monster with it like Nihilus, or they are Gods in the Force in general.
You mean aside from the fact that obviously absorbing the power of others increases your own leading to exponential growth?
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
doesnt kreia even say, "There is no strength in the hunger he possesses." or something along those lines?
I'm so glad you brought this up.
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At 5:05, Kreia waxes poetic about the vast magnitude of Nihilus's power. Then, in the same conversation (the 6:20), rebukes the Exile for thinking Nihilus to be powerful.
Major contradiction in a minute's time? This is what happens when some think that purple prose and loquacious writing constitutes good writing.
Or maybe Kreia's trying too hard to be a contrarian b1tch.