Emperor Vitiate vs Imperial Strike Team

Started by Master Han8 pages
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
You are wrong! You are the one who is ignorant of lot of things in the lore.

You conceded the debate when you asked what my point was. There are three possibilities here:

1. English is not your first language
2. You were too stupid to understand my very obvious contention
3. You were too stupid to understand my very obvious contention, and therefore agreed with my analogy

Only one of the above would elicit sympathy from me, or anyone else for that matter.

This is almost as embarrassing as your laughable context-blooper in the Luke vs. Vitiate thread, which you refused to concede or even with my blessings ignore, or at the very least go back to check the source of my amusement. Like, you could at least try harder than this, SWL.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Force psychosis is somehow comparable to Force Storm? An ancient Sith Lord Terrak Morrhage had comparable capability in this aspect.

Not just Force psychosis...Force psychosis with galactic reach! 😆 Which, in your deluded fanon, belongs only to those of an exclusive club.


The rest of the feats indicate that Abeloth had considerable galactic level Force abilities; however, on individual basis, none of these are as impressive as Force Storm.

Yes, they are. Read again; when Abeloth recovered her full power, the High Council's intelligence suggested she had the power not only to destroy Coruscant, but to wreak massive, galaxy wide destruction. This doesn't even factor in her making Luke Skywalker piss his pants.


He siphoned energies of countless souls/beings from multiple planets (Medriaas; Dromund Kaas; and Maelstrom region); he prevented aging and decay of his original body/avatars with this feat; this kind of power also made it possible for him to inflict planetary-scale destruction single-handedly, if he wanted to.

Ritual. I don't care. Sidious is superior. Force storms don't need rituals.


In addition, he controlled all of his puppets on galactic scale which numbered in thousands with his telepathic abilities, granting him additional galactic level reach with combative actions. He also masked the presence of all of his puppets embedded within the Jedi Order and Republic by empowering the leader of his puppets (First Son). Simultaneously, he engaged in combative actions as well and also continuously manipulated the environment of Dromund Kaas.

Ritual. I don't care. Sidious is superior. Force storms don't need rituals.


So the summary is like this:-

Siphoning energies from countless beings on multiple planets + continuous prevention of decay and aging of original body/avatars + galactic level telepathic powers in action (additional firepower) + influencing the environment of Dromund Kaas + combative or mass-scale destructive actions

Holy shit, what part of "ritual" don't you understand? Sidious could destroy star fleets just by getting angry.


You think that Abeloth animating many Avatars simultaneously is impressive?

Well, Vitiate not just could perform lot of actions simultaneously by himself but he had additional firepower under his disposal with his Children (or puppets) whom he also controlled.

Abeloth did not animate avatars. She was literally in multiple places at the same time.


Did I ever mention before that Vitiate possessed Abeloth like capabilities? I guess so.

No, he does not, and your pathetic, deluded opinion aside, he would get his shit stomped in by Abeloth at her weakest point.


"The Sith Emperor has mastered the dark side's power to become the most dominating Force-user the galaxy has ever seen."

Makes sense.

Your lack of understanding of the English language leads me to believe that it isn't your native tongue, or that you never grew to understand the perfect tense. Darth Sidious is explicitly described by multiple sources to be the most powerful sith lord who ever lived. When he returned in Empire's End, the ancient sith ghosts in Korriban bowed before him in acknowledgment of his power. A dark lord of the sith, voluntarily bowing before another? 😆


What about The Father? And your assessment is not very convincing.

The Father has powerscaling and Leland Chee on his side.


Sidious doesn't knows much about Vitiate and neither he is in the position to evaluate his power properly.

There's still the publisher's summary. Plagueis has accolades to suggest that he's above Vitiate, and he has superior feats; you masturbate to Vitiate's "GALACTIC" force powers, while ignoring that you could achieve far more satisfying orgasms from Plagueis and Sidious's pulling off a universal undermining of the balance of the Force itself.


1. Canon sources do not CONFIRM Luke to be stronger then Yoda. This is fanon assumption.

Love the irony here.


2. Plagueis isn't the strongest Sith prior to Sidious; even the accolade he earned is vague.

How is it vague? Sidious and the publisher believe that he's more powerful than any sith that had come before him, and his feats speak for themselves.


So either open your mind for all of the lore or drop your assumption regarding relative positions of Plagueis and Luke in the context of power within the mythos.

Assumptions? My assumptions are backed by canon fact. You are the only parroting your own fanon fantasies of Vitiate's power, in the face of authorial fiat.


You are confused, deluded, lack knowledge and more. Only cowards and stubborn individuals ignore and shy away from debates when they realize that their propaganda is not working.

Shy away from debates? 😆 You have a habit of conveniently dropping arguments and moving on to another thread, while pretending that nothing you had just been tooled with had ever been provided; where are you on the Luke vs Vitiate thread? The most powerful Force user? Please, don't conjure such laughably self-defeating points.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Really? Never heard of him draining Kaas and the Maelstrom region.

Yes.

Wheres that stated?

Originally posted by Nephthys
Wheres that stated?

SWTORE reveals that he siphoned energies of many individuals on Dromund Kaas.

In addition, he siphoned energy of Revan on Maelstrom. This was 12 parsecs away from Dromund Kaas.

Revan survived by siphoning energy of Meetra's ghost form.

Oh yeah.

I sense Legend just helped you reach orgasm.

Real sex is better, BTW. Shall I ask for his number?

Hmmm? No, its not that big of a deal. I already knew he was draining Revan and that he siphoned power from some other guys isn't that special.

Sorry you were disappointed in the release.

Let's talk some more about how much Vitiate sucks. Han, feel free to describe just how and to what extent Vitiate sucks.

Despite being empowered by a dark side nexus, Vitiate was knocked on his ass by Revan, almost killed by a smaller-than-R2D2 droid's flamethrower, almost killed by Meetra's lightsaber throw, and then shocked to see that Scourge had joined with the heroes. In comparison, Palpatine has, on multiple occasions, read the far more powerful Vader's thoughts, such as one event displayed in the Thrawn trilogy sourcebook:

Boarding his shuttle, he ordered the pilot to lift off. A pity, my son, he thought. You could have joined me and together...we could have destroyed the Emperor and ruled the galaxy in his place. As he stared at the severed appendage in his hands, a sudden flash of insight struck the Dark Lord, realization dawning like the sunrise of Bespin. Perhaps, if you will not be turned, little Jedi, a suitable substitute may be arranged.

Suddenly, Vader was struck to his knees by the horribly powerful voice that rolled like fiery thunder through his brain. The pilots struggled vainly to ignore the Dark Lord's...discomfort. "Yes, my servant," the voice boomed in his mind, dripping raw evil. "Come to Mount Tantiss, immediately. I shall meet you there, and we will discuss my new trophy."
"Yes...my Master," Vader gasped, feeling an icy stab of dread in his soul, as the Emperor's mocking chuckle still echoed in his mind. His Master had detected his rebellious thoughts. This discussion would be most unpleasant. Most unpleasant indeed.

He further fails to detect Scourge's treachery over three centuries, not even at his most vulnerable, such as when he was undergoing the intense immortality ritual and probably couldn't shield his mind.

Over said three centuries, Vitiate pulled off a quite spectacular set of failures feats, such as continuing to fail to detect Scourge's treachery and getting manipulated by an immobilized-in-stasis Revan, before finally dying to the "Hero of Tython", who canonically, is less powerful than Yoda.

Why do the Jedi start entering a defensive stance a few seconds prior to Vitiate's charged attack? It's not like those Jedi are slower than Vitiate.

Originally posted by Master Han
Despite being empowered by a dark side nexus, Vitiate was knocked on his ass by Revan, almost killed by a smaller-than-R2D2 droid's flamethrower, almost killed by Meetra's lightsaber throw, and then shocked to see that Scourge had joined with the heroes. In comparison, Palpatine has, on multiple occasions, read the [b]far more powerful Vader's thoughts, such as one event displayed in the Thrawn trilogy sourcebook:

He further fails to detect Scourge's treachery over three centuries, not even at his most vulnerable, such as when he was undergoing the intense immortality ritual and probably couldn't shield his mind.

Over said three centuries, Vitiate pulled off a quite spectacular set of failures feats, such as continuing to fail to detect Scourge's treachery and getting manipulated by an immobilized-in-stasis Revan, before finally dying to the "Hero of Tython", who canonically, is less powerful than Yoda. [/B]