Doomsday vs the Fantastis Four

Started by LeonBuco66611 pages

Ben beat namor underwater, once, because of plot, it means nothing and neither does the thor instance.

Ben Grimm is a Meta
NOT a low-mid herald

Yeah, I don't see Doomsday winning this. If the Fantastic 4 engage him in direct combat Doomsday murks them, but giving Reed a day to get ready in a forum battle? F4 10/10.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Irony on two levels. quanchi112 never started an argument he didn't want to continue, but if he did, he'd be quaneuvering all day like you right now. quanchi112 was also content to rest his laurels on "concession accepted" posts like your's in this thread.

We can't even get you to take a position. But... that's not surprising anymore, is it? kinda

Originally posted by LeonBuco666
Ben beat namor underwater, once, because of plot, it means nothing and neither does the thor instance.

Ben Grimm is a Meta
NOT a low-mid herald

ben has physically taken on terrax and surfer to a good range he has fought and beaten the destroyer armor and thor needed help to restrain the thing.
the thing is strong enough to hurt doomsday and with torch and sue there and him not being immune to everything yet they could take him down without prep.
hunterprey doomsday they would need prep but dos doomsday the fur could take him without it.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Reed can then use his instruments to his heart's content, and study Doom. He will discover that the Watchtower readings were waaay off, and this is now HP Doomsday he's dealing with. He busts out the abstract killing guns, just in case he breaks out.
This isn't H/P Doomsday. It's DOS Doomsday:
Originally posted by Brockalizer
Fantastic Four

vs

DoS Doomsday

Originally posted by comic_book_fan
ben has physically taken on terrax and surfer to a good range he has fought and beaten the destroyer armor and thor needed help to restrain the thing.
the thing is strong enough to hurt doomsday and with torch and sue there and him not being immune to everything yet they could take him down without prep.
hunterprey doomsday they would need prep but dos doomsday the fur could take him without it.
are you shitting me? are you actually being serious? you honestly believe the thing is a mid herald? on par with adam warlock, black adam and the like? lol no, the thing has no chance against any version of DD at all.

Originally posted by ODG
This isn't H/P Doomsday. It's DOS Doomsday:

Pfft. I just want Reed to bust his Celestial killing guns out.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Pfft. I just want Reed to bust his Celestial killing guns out.
why would he need them for HP doomsday lol

Originally posted by LeonBuco666
why would he need them for HP doomsday lol

Because it removes all argument.

Originally posted by LeonBuco666
are you shitting me? are you actually being serious? you honestly believe the thing is a mid herald? on par with adam warlock, black adam and the like? lol no, the thing has no chance against any version of DD at all.

no I am saying he is stronger than adam warolock he is in the same strength class range as adam he is weaker but close and I said he could hurt doomsday along with the rest of the ff could beat him see there is a difference the fantastic 4 as a whole without prep could beat dos doomseday and I do think thing could hurt doomsday he couldn't beat him alone but he could hurt him

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Because it removes all argument.
Possibly, but I'm not so sure. He withstood the OE there's a good chance he could survive that as well.

Originally posted by LeonBuco666
are you shitting me? are you actually being serious? you honestly believe the thing is a mid herald? on par with adam warlock, black adam and the like? lol no, the thing has no chance against any version of DD at all.
Adam has more tools to work with, but in a straight up fist fight, I'd take Ben anyday and twice on Sunday.

Ah well, it doesn't matter; the DarkSaint Doomcage will suffice in holding this mighty beast.

Originally posted by Brockalizer
Possibly, but I'm not so sure. He withstood the OE there's a good chance he could survive that as well.
So has Raker's bubble construct, Firestorm's funnel, Wonder Woman's bracelets, Orion's forcefields, Entropy Aegis armor, Superman's heat vision, Superman himself, etc. More than decent chance they succumb to something that obliterated a Celestial.

So the logic for Doomsday winning is that he isn't a high enough threat for Reed to use his good tech against?

Well surely you can feel safe in that assertion...

^ There's also logic that it's H/P Doomsday in this hypothetical... instead of DOS Doomsday -- despite the thread op -- because maybe the thread op played a trick on Reed.

And/or maybe Reed will underestimate H/P Doomsday because for some reason the JLA's files are all outdated or have no files on him???

I don't get the whole "needs to build a device" either considering he can just grab a random thing out of his closet and take him out.

The bamboozling the F4 with a different Doomsday though doesn't make sense. Apparently Reed will bring out something with just enough oomph to beat DOS and nothing more.

There is a possibility that it will go something like this.

Reed: Sue Sueee
Reed: Ben Bennnn
Reed: Johnny Johnnyyyaieeee
Reed: Aieeeee..................

Oh yeah, and Uatu gets tea bagged once again.

Is there anything quantifiable that Reed has done in a day's worth of prep? While I agree that's enough it's fallacious to assume he can do anything you can think of.

Originally posted by Based
Is there anything quantifiable that Reed has done in a day's worth of prep? While I agree that's enough it's fallacious to assume he can do anything you can think of.
He could use tech he already has.