Doomsday vs the Fantastis Four

Started by Rao Kal El11 pages

Originally posted by ODG
^ Reread the scene. Sound itself can cross the room. Nothing else. Certainly not something that simply moves at the speed of sound or above. Not at this time of night I do. I don't care about your personal life. Pretty sure I stated that before.

We all know why you bump threads that nobody cares about anymore.

No, we're not getting into your personal life outside of these threads. I was discussing what you do in these threads. There's a difference.

And thus, the only irony comes from you trying to share more about yourself on a personal level when I clearly don't give a sh1t what you do outside of these forums and have said so a number of times. Get over it.

Just a clarification, because only someone with the IQ of a worm will think (insinuate or state) that I leave for long period of times with the purpose of bumping threads in 16 months or so.

"We all know, you bump threads nobody cares anymore"

Is that and statement? if so was this a "dead thread"?

I think that sound better if you say it like this.

"I (ODG) THINK, You bump threads, that I (ODG) don't care anymore"

That sounds more like it. 🙂

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Just a clarification, because only someone with the IQ of a worm will think (insinuate or state) that I leave for long period of times with the purpose of bumping threads in 16 months or so.
A misogynist as well as a dullard. How unsurprising.
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
"We all know, you bump threads nobody cares anymore"

Is that and statement? if so was this a "dead thread"?

I think that sound better if you say it like this.

"I (ODG) THINK, You bump threads, that I (ODG) don't care anymore"

That sounds more like it. 🙂

"We all know why you bump threads that nobody cares about anymore." <--- Actually what I said. Not sure what you're quoting or how you even managed to copy what I said incorrectly. You managed to completely stop this conversation in its tracks with sheer unintentional absentmindedness. Shame, I suppose? I'm sure we were about to get into your abused childhood because really, that's what you were trying to turn this thread into. All about you, in real life... in a Doomsday vs Fantastic Four thread.

Stick with arguing about comics. Arguing about your personal life as it relates to how you argue about comics, is both a fruitless and witless endeavor.

Originally posted by ODG
^ Reread the scene. Sound itself can cross the room. Nothing else. Certainly not something that simply moves at the speed of sound or above.

You see the Dimensional wave inducer? That seems to be a SOLID object riding a sonic wave, which moves at the speed of what?

Originally posted by ODG
A misogynist as well as a dullard. How unsurprising. "We all know why you bump threads that nobody cares about anymore." <--- Actually what I said. Not sure what you're quoting or how you even managed to copy what I said incorrectly. You managed to completely stop this conversation in its tracks with sheer unintentional absentmindedness. Shame, I suppose? I'm sure we were about to get into your abused childhood because really, that's what you were trying to turn this thread into. All about you, in real life... in a Doomsday vs Fantastic Four thread.

Stick with arguing about comics.

THIS

Originally posted by ODG
Arguing about your personal life as it relates to how you argue about comics, is both a fruitless and witless endeavor.

As fruitless as mentioning that I leave for 16 months, 2 months, bump thread and so on? Oh the Irony 😉

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
You see the Dimensional wave inducer? That seems to be a SOLID object riding a sonic wave, which moves at the speed of what?
What is a sonic wave made of? It's not the speed the sound was moving at that allowed it to cross the room. It was its nature as a sonic wave. They quite literally tell you that in the comic.
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
THIS

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As fruitless as mentioning that I leave for 16 months, 2 months, bump thread and so on?

No, you leaving for 16 months and bumping dead threads was stupid. You trying to make excuses about why you did it by trying to explain your real life was fruitless and witless. Me pointing out that your actions are either stupid, fruitless, or witless is really just me pointing out that your actions are either stupid, fruitless, or witless. Not that hard. These are very dry statements.

Originally posted by ODG
What is a sonic wave made of? It's not the speed the sound was moving at that allowed it to cross the room. It was its nature as a sonic wave. They quite literally tell you that in the comic. No, you leaving for 16 months and bumping dead threads was stupid. You trying to make excuses about why you did it by trying to explain your real life was fruitless and witless. Me pointing out that your actions are either stupid, fruitless, or witless is really just me pointing out that your actions are either stupid, fruitless, or witless. Not that hard. These are very dry statements.

It could be the frequency, but seeing as the Reed voice does not sound like "ZWRRZ" I doubt is the frequency.

You said NOTHING can pass except Reed voice, which is a LIE. seeing as a sonic beam can pass.

I said DD or Hulk or mos high tiers with some degree of super speed will be pretty much capable of pass this room and I back up my claim with showing a physical object riding a sonic wave.

The burden of proof falls on you to show that "NOTHING" but Reeds voice can pass that room.

Originally posted by ODG
No, you leaving for 16 months and bumping dead threads was stupid. You trying to make excuses about why you did it by trying to explain your real life was fruitless and witless. Me pointing out that your actions are either stupid, fruitless, or witless is really just me pointing out that your actions are either stupid, fruitless, or witless. Not that hard. These are very dry statements.

Lets just leave it at that and talk about comics. but making those "dry statements" are also fruitless, stupid and witless. to say the least.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Lets just leave it at that and talk about comics.
I agree. Comics it is.

EDIT: Nice edit though. By all means, I'm sure you can't leave the discussion without a backhanded insult. But whatever. Statement stands. You can think what you want. Your behavior was stupid, fruitless and witless. And now with retorting with the equivalent of, "Nyahnyah, I know you are, but what am I???", you can also add childish to the mix.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
It could be the frequency, but seeing as the Reed voice does not sound like "ZWRRZ" I doubt is the frequency.

You said NOTHING can pass except Reed voice, which is a LIE. seeing as a sonic beam can pass.

I said DD or Hulk or mos high tiers with some degree of super speed will be pretty much capable of pass this room and I back up my claim with showing a physical object riding a sonic wave.

The burden of proof falls on you to show that "NOTHING" but Reeds voice can pass that room.

I meant that only sounds or sonic waves (of which Reed's voice is) can cross the room. Obviously, Hank's voice also crossed the room.

Something that didn't cross the room that probably moves faster than the speed of sound? Hank's bio-electric blasts. Which did nothing. It wasn't speed that bypassed the spatial distortions. It was sonics, because that was the loophole Reed devised to keep Hank away but leave him open to a lecturing. Which is why Hank used a sonic beam emitter. He didn't use a faster-than-sound waves emitter.

Originally posted by ODG
I agree. Comics it is. [EDIT: Nice edit though. By all means, I'm sure you can't leave the discussion without a backhanded insult. But whatever. Statement stands. You can think what you want. Your behavior was stupid, fruitless and witless. And now with retorting with the equivalent of, "Nyahnyah, I know you are, but what am I???", you can also add childish to the mix. I meant that only sounds or sonic waves (of which Reed's voice is) can cross the room. Obviously, Hank's voice also crossed the room.

Something that didn't cross the room that probably moves faster than the speed of sound? Hank's bio-electric blasts. Which did nothing. It wasn't speed that bypassed the spatial distortions. It was sonics, because that was the loophole Reed devised to keep Hank away but leave him open to a lecturing. Which is why Hank used a sonic beam emitter. He didn't use a faster-than-sound waves emitter.

You believe something like a thunderclap will affect this room?

Does anyone want me to bring out my huge archive of scans of the crazy crap Reed has invented? Because I will.

Originally posted by ODG
I agree. Comics it is.

EDIT: Nice edit though. By all means, I'm sure you can't leave the discussion without a backhanded insult. But whatever. Statement stands. You can think what you want. Your behavior was stupid, fruitless and witless. And now with retorting with the equivalent of, "Nyahnyah, I know you are, but what am I???", you can also add childish to the mix.

Well to be honest I was not going to leave you to run away with an insult and even though it seem childish, you just did the same thing right now.

but I think this will be probably the end of it.

I rather have a civil chat, on my free time than a childish fight (though sometimes is fun)

And I think that We can keep some sense of civility if We want to.

So lets keep talking about comics, though I might not stay for long.

^ You write a comment to move on. You then append a backhanded insult to it, after the fact. And you act all surprised when somebody throws it back in your face? Like I said, toughen up cupcake.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Does anyone want me to bring out my huge archive of scans of the crazy crap Reed has invented? Because I will.
By all means, please do so. It's often forgotten what people like Reed has invented and has on-hand.
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
You believe something like a thunderclap will affect this room?
The sound created by the thunderclap would reach across the room. Sure.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Does anyone want me to bring out my huge archive of scans of the crazy crap Reed has invented? Because I will.

No need, If Reed brings the gadgets he wins, though I am basing this on forum rules of "standard gear" and the disadvantage of basically facing HP DD with DOS DD information.

and I don't think "in character" Reed will resort to use an abstract killing weapon to deal with a threat like Hulk or DD

Originally posted by ODG
^ You write a comment to move on. You then append a backhanded insult to it, after the fact. And you act all surprised when somebody throws it back in your face? Like I said, toughen up cupcake.

Honestly that was not my intention. I maybe did, but I was not trying to.

Originally posted by ODG
The sound created by the thunderclap would reach across the room. Sure.

So, it will affect the spatial effect. rendering the effect useless.

I don't see how this spatial effect is going to stop DD, honestly

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
So, it will affect the spatial effect. rendering the effect useless.

I don't see how this spatial effect is going to stop DD, honestly

Bypassing the spatial effect =/= rendering the spatial effect inert. Reed's and Hank's voices were heard throughout the Zeno Room; didn't disable the Zeno Room. At all.

By keeping him in place perpetually. As was already explained. Keeping Doomsday in place where he cannot hurt anybody has worked before for the JLA.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
So, it will affect the spatial effect. rendering the effect useless.

I don't see how this spatial effect is going to stop DD, honestly

If you're referring to how Doomsday could just thunderclap across the room...

That would be because Reed allows it. As you said, he will see a Hulk-like creature. And what does the Hulk like to do? Thunderclap.

Why would he allow sound to cross? More likely, it'll be turned off.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
It could be the frequency, but seeing as the Reed voice does not sound like "ZWRRZ" I doubt is the frequency.

You said NOTHING can pass except Reed voice, which is a LIE. seeing as a sonic beam can pass.

I said DD or Hulk or mos high tiers with some degree of super speed will be pretty much capable of pass this room and I back up my claim with showing a physical object riding a sonic wave.

The burden of proof falls on you to show that "NOTHING" but Reeds voice can pass that room.

OK, fine :-p

Sound can pass through the room. Light can also pass through the room (because they can see and hear each other).

It's not the speed that matters, nothing else can pass. Pym himself confirms this:

"Typical Reed. Builds a room that NOTHING can cross....except the SOUND of his own voice!"

It's a localised field, around Pym's immediate location, not around the inducer. That's how Reed is able to stretch and grab it from his side of the room. all Pym had to do was find a way to cross from his location.

Which he did, with a sonic screwdriver. Which Reed can negate, by creating a vacuum and depriving sound of a medium to pass through.

Further improvements of the DarkSaint Doomcage, so named after the brilliant young engineer who first thought of it, include a hard light floor that disappears, causing Doomsday to fall for an eternity, in a vacuum.

Reed can then use his instruments to his heart's content, and study Doom. He will discover that the Watchtower readings were waaay off, and this is now HP Doomsday he's dealing with. He busts out the abstract killing guns, just in case he breaks out.

Originally posted by ODG
Fling insults all you want. You can't even taken a position. That you tremble so much over a complete non-issue because you fear a complete dressing down is not something I am here to remedy.

In fact, any such danger you perceive can be avoided simply by reading the comic or searching for past deconstructions of myths that have promulgated about it. But we all know that instead of actually discussing any issue, you're more than happy to drag out a non-argument for non-argument's sake.

I haven't seen that before. kinda


ODG wrote on Jul 25th, 2013 11:23 PM:
tl;dr

Stop trying so hard. Never go quan-lite.

ben has roughed up thor in the past he holds back.
he is not quite in the superman range but he is in the class below it like wonderwoman captain marvel and thor.