Completely serious, though. What if GL made puppy constructs and calmed the Hulk into Banner? That seems to knock him out for a bit.
After all, each side gets a working knowledge of their opponent - and everybody knows the angrier the Hulk gets, the stronger he gets. Remove his anger, and remove his strength.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Completely serious, though. What if GL made puppy constructs and calmed the Hulk into Banner? That seems to knock him out for a bit.After all, each side gets a working knowledge of their opponent - and everybody knows the angrier the Hulk gets, the stronger he gets. Remove his anger, and remove his strength.
hopefully hulk would smash a few puppies and use the rest to hurl back at GL at FTL speeds.
Hal would die by puppy.
Raisen would laugh.
Odekahn will cry
Carver will masturbate.
Originally posted by Odekahn
Hal absolutely can beat the hulk at his best. What you are trying to say is that standard Hal cannot take the World Breaker version of Hulk. This thread could just have easily been Hal vs Hulk with Hal able to go "parallax" mode. At each characters peak of power, Hulk isn't winning.Also...
Changing the environment isn't to defeat the Hulk. It's to Neutralize his strength until hal can formulate a plan to dispose of him.
If he isn't already dead by then.
Originally posted by The Sorrow
Hal can't do that on a whim, whereas Hulk will eventually reach Worldbreaker levels if need be under his own power, totally different. Hal also has a finite charge on his ring, Hulk has limitless stamina which is a significant factor.If he isn't already dead by then.
And that would make sense if Hal was fighting stupidly and going toe to toe with Hulk, letting him build up rage by pounding away at solid constructs. But Hal has the tools to neutralize Hulk until he decides what he wants to do with him.
Originally posted by Raisen
hopefully hulk would smash a few puppies and use the rest to hurl back at GL at FTL speeds.Hal would die by puppy.
Raisen would laugh.
Odekahn will cry
Carver will masturbate.
Oh, you got me! Lol please. If I get proven wrong or change my mind I would admit it. I speak my honest opinion, and unlike some people, i don't spew bias around. If i think one character more powerful than another it doesn't make me like them more or less. Gandalf is my favorite character in LotR but I couldn't care less that he'd get owned by the Witch King of Angmar.
Again you said "on paper" and that was the exact point I previously made. On paper you can mold out any scenario or conclusion that you desire, but once battle takes place then its different story. Ever heard of the saying "everyone has a plan until they get hit" well all this version of hulk needs is one clean hit on Hal and he is finished. And as for Hal simply flying around avoiding contact. WBH generates so much power that with one step he can sink an entire sea board. so I am pretty sure the least he can do is an amplified thunderclap which can disrupt the flow of the atmosphere causing disorientation to Hal, which neutralizes Hals only saving grace to win. But this is only one minor tactic that comes to mind there are plently other ways hulk can close the distance. I know that Hal is your fav character but know when to suspend your bias, he loses here. By the looks of it you make Hal sound like the most powerful herald in comics.
Originally posted by dial J for Josh
Again you said "on paper" and that was the exact point I previously made. On paper you can mold out any scenario or conclusion that you desire, but once battle takes place then its different story. Ever heard of the saying "everyone has a plan until they get hit" well all this version of hulk needs is one clean hit on Hal and he is finished. And as for Hal simply flying around avoiding contact. WBH generates so much power that with one step he can sink an entire sea board. so I am pretty sure the least he can do is an amplified thunderclap which can disrupt the flow of the atmosphere causing disorientation to Hal, which neutralizes Hals only saving grace to win. But this is only one minor tactic that comes to mind there are plently other ways hulk can close the distance. I know that Hal is your fav character but know when to suspend your bias, he loses here. By the looks of it you make Hal sound like the most powerful herald in comics.
His Thunder clap as WWH destroyed Umar shields that was capable of holding back the entire race of Mindless ones and he wasn't even directing his thunder clap at the shields.
A thunder clap from WBH should incinerate Hal.
Originally posted by dial J for Josh
Again you said "on paper" and that was the exact point I previously made. On paper you can mold out any scenario or conclusion that you desire, but once battle takes place then its different story. Ever heard of the saying "everyone has a plan until they get hit" well all this version of hulk needs is one clean hit on Hal and he is finished. And as for Hal simply flying around avoiding contact. WBH generates so much power that with one step he can sink an entire sea board. so I am pretty sure the least he can do is an amplified thunderclap which can disrupt the flow of the atmosphere causing disorientation to Hal, which neutralizes Hals only saving grace to win. But this is only one minor tactic that comes to mind there are plently other ways hulk can close the distance. I know that Hal is your fav character but know when to suspend your bias, he loses here. By the looks of it you make Hal sound like the most powerful herald in comics.
Hal has survived being in some of the harshest environments known to guardian space and beyond. Even if Hal is disoriented, his ring has a mind of its own and could save him. Hal has no limit at which he can attack from, the same isn't true of Hulk. Plus, Krona buster to the head. This is like a greatsword vs an AR15.
Originally posted by Odekahn
Hal has survived being in some of the harshest environments known to guardian space and beyond. Even if Hal is disoriented, his ring has a mind of its own and could save him. Hal has no limit at which he can attack from, the same isn't true of Hulk. Plus, Krona buster to the head. This is like a greatsword vs an AR15.
Hulk bas survived in the harshest of environments so a Krona buster shouldn't do a thing, correct?
Originally posted by carver9
Hulk bas survived in the harshest of environments so a Krona buster shouldn't do a thing, correct?
It depends on what is behind the force. What's behind the force of a thunderclap? What is it that's hitting the target? Wind? Krona Buster is pure energy burning through the target.
Originally posted by Odekahn
Hal has survived being in some of the harshest environments known to guardian space and beyond. Even if Hal is disoriented, his ring has a mind of its own and could save him. Hal has no limit at which he can attack from, the same isn't true of Hulk. Plus, Krona buster to the head. This is like a greatsword vs an AR15.
lol please don't try to make Hal look good by bringing up scenarios that he has endured. Now I am not disapproving Hals endurance, resilience, or will power because he is amazing in these aspects, but on the contrary to Hulk in his WB form he is superior (obviously not in will power though because, that is what Hals character is solely based off of.) And hulks only limit in this form is that everything he does from movement, gestures, screams is enhanced to such a point that they result to catastrophic measures, so being gentle or scaling his damage output is his only limit. And this is not just me saying these things, I have read it myself and proof of this is in the comics. So Hal surviving "the harshest environments known to guardian space and beyond" is obsolete because it doesn't matter if Hals been to hell and back his body would get obliterated if this version of hulk touches him once. And I forgot to mention you want to bring up limits? Well lets point out the obvious. WBH generates limitless amounts of energy, while Hals ring needs a duracel recharge. I never felt the need to bring this obvious fact to the surface, but you were the first to bring up limits.
Originally posted by carver9
His Thunder clap as WWH destroyed Umar shields that was capable of holding back the entire race of Mindless ones and he wasn't even directing his thunder clap at the shields.A thunder clap from WBH should incinerate Hal.
👆. Yup this was the exact scenario I thought of when making that argument.
Originally posted by dial J for Josh
lol please don't try to make Hal look good by bringing up scenarios that he has endured. Now I am not disapproving Hals endurance, resilience, or will power because he is amazing in these aspects, but on the contrary to Hulk in his WB form he is superior (obviously not in will power though because, that is what Hals character is solely based off of.) And hulks only limit in this form is that everything he does from movement, gestures, screams is enhanced to such a point that they result to catastrophic measures, so being gentle or scaling his damage output is his only limit. And this is not just me saying these things, I have read it myself and proof of this is in the comics. So Hal surviving "the harshest environments known to guardian space and beyond" is obsolete because it doesn't matter if Hals been to hell and back his body would get obliterated if this version of hulk touches him once. And I forgot to mention you want to bring up limits? Well lets point out the obvious. WBH generates limitless amounts of energy, while Hals ring needs a duracel recharge. I never felt the need to bring this obvious fact to the surface, but you were the first to bring up limits.👆. Yup this was the exact scenario I thought of when making that argument.
Good thing Hal is fully charged at the start of the fight. With nothing directly attempting to drain his ring, it will last. Also, Hal could always drain the gamma radiation from Hulk.
Originally posted by Odekahn
Good thing Hal is fully charged at the start of the fight. With nothing directly attempting to drain his ring, it will last. Also, Hal could always drain the gamma radiation from Hulk.
Your replies doesn't make sense. Hal gets his constructs ripped through and gets overpowered. Sorry bro.
Originally posted by Odekahn
Explain how it doesn't make sense?
lol me bringing up the whole ring running out of juice was a petty joke and you took bait that I didn't even intend to plant. Are you that much out of points to make? You completely ignored everything I said before that. Can you respond to what I said before making the irrelevant ring running out of juice comment? And lol at Hal draining all of the energy out of a being that produces unlimited amounts of it.