Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Oh well nevermind. It seems the character in the thread posted it.Fascinating
Originally posted by zopzopIt's just a cover.
Thank you.So wait, IM is gonna face off against the GK? Assuming it's Celestial killing powers weren't hyperbole, what chance does IM have against it? Is he currently buffed or something?
But if he did face off against the thing, it'd be a guarantee hype job by 451
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
One word: Jarnbjorn.The armor was the result of an arms race among an ancient alien race that was there during the beginning of time. Stark was allegedly genetically engineered by an interstellar android called 451 to be its pilot.
Yet another alien race that was there are the beginning of time...yawn....that no on ever heard of until now. I am glad you are talking this Godkiller smut seriously because I'm not. Someone or something this powerful and there no mention of him untl a few months ago? Did he get erased by Thanos and the Beyonder without them even concentratin specifically on him?
Galactus Engine because of ON PANEL impressions.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
That's speculation, not actual proof that he was lying.Bring me proof that he was incorrect or the Godkiller was "slagged/destroyed" in the original Aspirant/Celestial war.
Why would he want to deliver something that can obviously bust planets as a "Trojan Horse" to Earth? Nevermind the fact that he had to make it fold itself out of reality in order to hide it, as destroying it was apparently impossible, 451 is pretty convinced of the power that it wields, the only thing he's wrong about is that Tony is the one to harness/unlock/wield that power.
Afterall, Tony is certainly no Reed or Doom. 👆
That's another failure of 451 and again, no actual proof beyond his hyperbole regarding the implied power of the GK. And even in 451's statements nothing explicitly stating that it was powerful enough to kill Celestials, just that it helped turn the tide...
There's just nothing but hyperbole to support the GK, and 451's assertions aren't exactly good enough to make up for lack of anything featwise that is even remotely close to matching the hype.
What's evident is that 451 never had a good understanding of the GK, of humanity, of Stark or of anything much. The writer's basically shown him to be a naive and clueless Ultron.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The God Killer's supposed power is way beyond the Galactus Engine from what I remember. I don't think 451 was just pulling Stark's leg about its capabilities. Still, it hasn't done anything notable yet on panel.
It was said to have turned the tide of the battle, it was the Aspirant's big weapon and that's about it. Now it could have killed a few Celestials, it could have killed loads, but the scope and scale were not stated, just left to your imagination.
The whole thing hinges on the idea that a) 451 was being literal in stating that there were trillions of Celestials (or rather an "infinity", given how we don't actually have any idea of how many stars there are), b) that GK actually killed lots of Celestials (remember, Sentry's stalemated Galactus off-panel, Spiderman said so, who believes/accepts that?) in battle, rather than say causing them to back off or something ... and c) that 451 has any idea of how powerful The Celestials are (he patently lacks for brains).
I don't buy it and I need on-panel evidence to take GK as being anything more than cosmic "Hulkbuster" armour.
If we take character assertions as fact, then Hulk >>>> Galactus, given a) Beyonder's assertion and b) Sentry >= Galactus.
And frankly, Spiderman and Beyonder are >>>>>>>>>> more intelligent than that Ultron knock-off and far more likely to know what they're talking about.
It was implied that there were more TheGodKillers
http://i43.tinypic.com/8zi6uv.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/s45tle.jpg
That makes things less idiotic. No big robot should be wiping out Celestials, by the dozen or by the billion...
But a whole mecha-army of Skyfather+ (well, I guess they'd have to be individually more powerful than that Skyfather pantheon) robots ... that is a more "realistic" deterrent.
Anyway, on-topic, nothing about the GK suggests it could stand up to The GE at all.
Unless it suddenly begins turning Celestial hosts into hand ninjas, I see this as spite against it.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
It was implied that there were more TheGodKillers
http://i43.tinypic.com/8zi6uv.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/s45tle.jpg
Originally posted by zopzop
So wait, IM is gonna face off against the GK? Assuming it's Celestial killing powers weren't hyperbole, what chance does IM have against it? Is he currently buffed or something?
Originally posted by janus77
Hadn't read the latest issue, so didn't know about 451 killing himself.That's another failure of 451 and again, no actual proof beyond his hyperbole regarding the implied power of the GK. And even in 451's statements nothing explicitly stating that it was powerful enough to kill Celestials, just that it helped turn the tide...
There's just nothing but hyperbole to support the GK, and 451's assertions aren't exactly good enough to make up for lack of anything featwise that is even remotely close to matching the hype.
What's evident is that 451 never had a good understanding of the GK, of humanity, of Stark or of anything much. The writer's basically shown him to be a naive and clueless Ultron.
Of course, there's always the chance that some new context could be revealed in a future issue or storyline about how the Godkiller nearly wiped out the Celestial race in those ancient times, and being a guy222 buddy, I would prefer such context to be revealed. Until then, we have to go by on-panel statements.
As far as that Ultron statement goes, here's a gem from the latest issue:
Originally posted by Branlor SwiftSo much for "We have a Hulk."
http://i43.tinypic.com/8zi6uv.jpg
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
It was implied that there were more TheGodKillers
http://i43.tinypic.com/8zi6uv.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/s45tle.jpg
Oh, didn't notice that.
Also liked this part:
http://i43.tinypic.com/8zi6uv.jpg
"Earth has a a nuclear detterent. It also has Thor."
ha-som
