Originally posted by h1a8No you can't not this is got to be the worst post yet, and Thor was ready for combat, 2nd unless you are way above someone in terms of strength you are not going to over power someone like that unless you tie their shoe laces together
Thor didn't fight getting slammed to the ground. Odin is class 100. Thor weighs less than 700lb. Thor should feel like a piece of dust to Odin. Odin had better leverage to prevent Thor from being unpinned on the ground. I can prevent you from getting up with one foot easily while you being stronger than me.
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
A badly formed question on my part.Given the restriction to it being a slugfest, coupled with Prime's abilities, where does the Guardian amp put Superman Prime in relation to Odin?
Ok I see what you mean, and in that case I'd have to say...........not even remotely close. Odin is on an entirely different level even physically as his recent fight with big G shows. Prime is tremendously overrated and this is actually spite. At best this will look like hulk vs Zeus.
Originally posted by Naija boy
Ok I see what you mean, and in that case I'd have to say...........not even remotely close. Odin is on an entirely different level even physically as his recent fight with big G shows. Prime is tremendously overrated and this is actually spite. At best this will look like hulk vs Zeus.
But the Big G feat actually proves that Prime is above Odin in physicality.
Look how Thor (someone under prime) easily damaged Galactus. It's safe to say that in that comic Fraction didn't value Galactus' durability like some other writers do.
For the sake of argument, I wouldn't say Odin provided more than 3x more force than what Thor did. Thor seemed to do some nasty damage in the vicinity of what Odin did.
Odin is not going to amp in size here. So the feat is really irrelevant IMO. So we must use feats of Odin when he is in normal human size.
Also, you are assuming Galactus blunt force durability is beyond his feats.
Prime has moved entire solar systems through space far faster than the speed of light. No offense, but that type of strength can wtf ko a Fraction level Galactus.
Originally posted by h1a8
Lastly, Odin is not going to amp in size here. So the feat is really irrelevant IMO. So we must use feats of Odin when he is in normal human size.
What would his size have to do with anything? In more scientific characters, sure - Hulk is stronger than Flash, who is built like a sprinter etc etc, Juggernaut is massive and therefore stronger...
But with a magical guy like Odin, the strength/durability/whatever you want to use that he exhibited against Galactus when in giant size, could also apply when he's human, no? Because magic.
Originally posted by Naija boy
Prime is tremendously overrated and this is actually spite. At best this will look like hulk vs Zeus.
I respectfully disagree.
Zeus was able to inflict that level of damage against the Hulk because the magic augmenting his blows negated Banner's natural invulnerabilty/healing. If you are allowing for the same scanario with Odin, Superman Prime is immune to magic and therefore Odin's strikes won't have the same effect.
Odin can of course power himself up to immense strength but then it is simply a question of sheer power and not the influence of magic.
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
I respectfully disagree.Zeus was able to inflict that level of damage against the Hulk because the magic augmenting his blows negated Banner's natural invulnerabilty/healing. If you are allowing for the same scanario with Odin, Superman Prime is immune to magic and therefore Odin's strikes won't have the same effect.
Odin can of course power himself up to immense strength but then it is simply a question of sheer power and not the influence of magic.
Hmm well yeah I didn't take into account that's fluency of magic on Zeus beating hulk. I was only really referencing it in relation to the brutality of the beating.
So yeah I was mainly referring to Odin just beating prime up physically because he is on a whole nother level of power. Not because of magic.
Originally posted by h1a8You never bring forth any evidence so just another baseless opinion.
So Odin is stronger than Prime (the being who moved planets faster than light) because he is a skyfather and did a little more than Thor did himself?This forum wanks the hell out of Odin. Superman would beat him in a slugfest. Yet this is with Prime (spite) and with the guardian amp (double spite).
Originally posted by cdtm
Where does it say Zeus negated Hulk's durability/healing factor?Not in the issue the fight happens in.
Do You need everything explicitly stated in the comic?
Skyfather magic negating Banner's durability/healing factor is an extremely rational conclusion to draw given the context of the fight and the Hulk's history.
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Do You need everything explicitly stated in the comic?Skyfather magic negating Banner's durability/healing factor is an extremely rational conclusion to draw given the context of the fight and the Hulk's history.
Because Hulk getting straight up beaten down by a vastly more powerful being isn't explanation enough?