Originally posted by DarkSaint85ulik is cannon fodder. Thor not so much but in light of the strength feats that Prime has then yes. Also Thor never resisted Odin in direct strength. Thor was handled off guard. The best proof that Odin is stronger is the force block feat.
I never saw Thor and Ulik as cannon fodder, but hey, to each their own.
Originally posted by h1a8Have you ever read a Thor comic Odin flat out pinned Thor to the groud with one arm and held him there while giving a small speech,
ulik is cannon fodder. Thor not so much but in light of the strength feats that Prime has then yes. Also Thor never resisted Odin in direct strength. Thor was handled off guard. The best proof that Odin is stronger is the force block feat.
Thor also cheapshotted Odin with a mjolnir blow and then Odin smacked him around.
Originally posted by h1a8
It's faulty to go by irrelevant feats with silly logic that doesn't prove anything. It's sound to use relevant feats to logically to prove a claim. I'm right 99.9% of the time as my logic is sound.
You wouldn`t know sound logic if Superman smacked you in the head with it. Handbooks and relevant feats are not the same. Throwing out a random number is not proving anything.
Now go read a comic before actually debating, and btw having your granny read it aloud for you does not count.
Originally posted by h1a8
ulik is cannon fodder. Thor not so much but in light of the strength feats that Prime has then yes. Also Thor never resisted Odin in direct strength. Thor was handled off guard. The best proof that Odin is stronger is the force block feat.
Off-guard? He attacked Odin first, then Odin handed him his ass in the second incident I posted. An angry pissed off Thor smacked Odin in the chin with Mjolnir, Odin just took it and took Thor apart.
In the first, yes, an argument could be made about being caught off-guard - but he then just lay there and didn't (couldn't?) break out of the one-handed neck hold.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85If I smack you and you grab me and slam me then was that expected by me? No! because if I knew you were going to slam me I would have tried to prevent it. Thor didn't fight the manhandle because it happened before he can react. You have to show that Thor fought off being manhandled using direct strength that is equal or better than Odin's leverage.
Off-guard? He attacked Odin first, then Odin handed him his ass in the second incident I posted. An angry pissed off Thor smacked Odin in the chin with Mjolnir, Odin just took it and took Thor apart.In the first, yes, an argument could be made about being caught off-guard - but he then just lay there and didn't (couldn't?) break out of the one-handed neck hold.
Till then, that doesn't show Odin is stronger.
Odin was affected by the hit as if he was a high herald level being (like Bill). Thor wtf rocked Odin. Don't downplay the showing.
Originally posted by Insane TitanSaying I'm wrong is not proving I'm wrong. You have to address my argument and counter it. No one has done that but ahbi. He was the only one who used sound logic to show Odin stronger than Thor (forceblock scenario). This dumb ass "Odin manhandled Thor" before Thor can react or Odin one shotting cannon fodder is just plain silly as hell.
I know I've been suckered into arguing with h1 before but honestly why people bother now ? He actually believes he is always right despite been proven wrong
Originally posted by h1a8
Saying I'm wrong is not proving I'm wrong. You have to address my argument and counter it. No one has done that but ahbi. He was the only one who used sound logic to show Odin stronger than Thor (forceblock scenario). This dumb ass "Odin manhandled Thor" before Thor can react or Odin one shotting cannon fodder is just plain silly as hell.
Wait, so if Abhi has addressed it and countered it, why are we still debating about it?
Originally posted by DarkOdinThor didn't fight getting slammed to the ground. Odin is class 100. Thor weighs less than 700lb. Thor should feel like a piece of dust to Odin. Odin had better leverage to prevent Thor from being unpinned on the ground. I can prevent you from getting up with one foot easily while you being stronger than me.
Have you ever read a Thor comic Odin flat out pinned Thor to the groud with one arm and held him there while giving a small speech,Thor also cheapshotted Odin with a mjolnir blow and then Odin smacked him around.
Originally posted by Silent MasterI read comics enough to know that feats are self explanatory. Reading the scene where Superman is on a talk show discussing issues have no bearing on DD one shotting MM.
h1a8 doesn't believe in reading comics, he thinks that bios/wiki and respect threads are enough.
Originally posted by h1a8in another thread you said lord Marvell slammed Thanos into the ground rocking yet it was proven it was the other way round yet you still claimed you was right , point proven
Saying I'm wrong is not proving I'm wrong. You have to address my argument and counter it. No one has done that but ahbi. He was the only one who used sound logic to show Odin stronger than Thor (forceblock scenario). This dumb ass "Odin manhandled Thor" before Thor can react or Odin one shotting cannon fodder is just plain silly as hell.
Originally posted by h1a8
I read comics enough to know that feats are self explanatory. Reading the scene where Superman is on a talk show discussing issues have no bearing on DD one shotting MM.
Reading comics is more or less to know the story, but feats for the most part can be easily separated from the story. Otherwise, we wouldn't have a respect thread or people couldn't prove things by posting scans (vs. the whole comic).
Prove that you read comics enough by posting the scan where it's stated that Odin was created to be a cl 75 character...like you claimed.
Originally posted by Insane TitanI said Marvell HIT Thanos to prove that Thanos can be affected by high herald blunt force. I wasn't trying to prove that Marvell is stronger or strong as Thanos. Why can't you remember that? Want to twist up my arguments?
in another thread you said lord Marvell slammed Thanos into the ground rocking yet it was proven it was the other way round yet you still claimed you was right , point proven
Originally posted by h1a8haha he didn't even hit or harm Thanos , Marvell was stopped by Thanos holding him at arms length.
I said Marvell HIT Thanos to prove that Thanos can be affected by high herald blunt force. I wasn't trying to prove that Marvell is stronger or strong as Thanos. Why can't you remember that? Want to twist up my arguments?