Acceptable discrimination?
I was watching Football yesterday and I saw an advertisement for Blackpeoplemeet.com.
I can't help think that if there had been a internationally televised commercial for a "whites only" dating service that there would have been a stink raised somewhere.
When is discrimination acceptable?
When there's no history or body of oppression and the consequences for the discriminated party are "Bummer, oh well moving on..."
At any rate we should see if the things we are comparing are actually comparable beyond a very shallow examination. For example most of us realize that the Nazi party and the Westboro baptist church having a white pride parade is distasteful and wrong, while a gay pride parade is not at all the same thing (cause completely different implications and reasons for it).
So are you saying that this isn't discrimination because of previous historical injustices?
I am just talking about the simple exclusion of one part of society (be it based on race, sexual orientation of gender) by another and when people might find it more acceptable than others.
Another example would be "women only" gyms.
No, I'm saying it's acceptable and not particularly harmful. And not only because of previous historical injustices, but also ongoing injustices.
Taking your dating site example, there are statistics that show that black people get considerably less messages than white people on dating sites. And the majority of English dating sites are overwhelmingly white. As such, white people have a perfectly fine platform that reminds them subtly that they are the "default" and that suits their dating needs. The only reason for a white person to have a "no coloured people" site is prejudice against an oppressed group, or racism. Racism is frowned upon, so that would get backlash. On the other hand, black people will have to go through a lot of white people's profiles if they desire to date someone with a similar experience to them (being black in america) and they will be actually discriminated against on the site they are. A black only dating site could potentially solve these issues, and is therefore not in the least prejudiced.
Similar arguments can be made for women only gyms (for example the tendency of certain men to make women feel uncomfortable or creeped out by oogling or hitting on them).
That's what I'm saying, when you look at two situations that appear similar or the same to you, you should look at the surrounding issues and figure out whether they really are similar at all.
Originally posted by Bardock42
when you look at two situations that appear similar or the same to you, you should look at the surrounding issues and figure out whether they really are similar at all.
Not necessarily disagreeing with you (or agreeing with you for that matter), just trying to get a topic going, and this came to mind.
But doesn't this continue to foster such injustices?
Originally posted by ArtificialGlorymy previous roomate told me he didnt believe in race mixing, tat whites should stay w whites, european equality no mixing of the pure blood, then i called him a racist. I also asked him but arent u friends w so and so and he said, its okay to be friends w them just not to breed w them. Lol Then i found out he was homophobic too and kicked him out.
I don't think there's anything particularly wrong with wanting to date people of your own race, and if you want to make a website dedicated to that, so be it.
Originally posted by rudesterbecause slavery.
I just had to bring this up..lol why can black people say the n word and white people cant? Hey man tats racist they say, yet u hear it in rap being thrown around like its nothing?
edit - my favorite white people complaint has got to be 'why can black people have BET but white people can't have WET,' conveniently ignoring that BET is owned by a corporation run primarily by white men.
All these examples come down to comparing things which only seem similar by disregarding the context in which they exist.
For example. Why no White Entertainment Channel? Because that's every channel, there is no lack of entertainment with white (predominantly male) protagonists to relate to.
Therefore a BET and a WET while on the surface the same (a TV Channel) are completely different. And one is alright while the other is creepy and somewhat ****ed up.
Re: Acceptable discrimination?
Originally posted by KharmaDogWas it explicitly mentioned that the site was for black people only? No one else can join?
I was watching Football yesterday and I saw an advertisement for Blackpeoplemeet.com.I can't help think that if there had been a internationally televised commercial for a "whites only" dating service that there would have been a stink raised somewhere.
When is discrimination acceptable?
When I read this, I immediately thought of commercials I see for Christian dating websites and Jewish dating websites, also for people over age 50. I would imagine there are still more dating sites catering to other 'specific clientele' that aren't advertising as much, for whatever reason (too expensive?).
Anyway, perhaps there's a fine line between 'preference' and 'discrimination', with the latter kicking in if a given site prohibits 'outsiders'.
In other words, offhand I see nothing wrong with a site addressing a particular demographic, as long as it doesn't say, "For [insert demographic here] Only."