Thor NOW vs Superman New 52

Originally posted by abhilegend
Now you're using high showings from a character and whining about how people don't use them as average showings. That's all you do, whine, whine and whine some more. Now stop cluttering the thread with your sentry love. Please.

You see, this is the problem with "debating on battle forums.

People like you usually tend to think of everything great their favorite character (in your case Superman) has ever done, while using average and even low showings to "prove" that other characters are less powerful than him / her.

You go even one step further by calling me out on my take on the Sentry and the fact that I like to point out all of the high showings he had, while totally ignoring the fact that you're doing the same for Superman and on top of that you're force feeding everyone with low showings of his opponents in certain debates.
Additionally to that you barely ever really back up your claims. You simply throw out names of characters you either want or expect (lack of knowledge on certain characters) to win. To support that you insult people and talk bad about them.

I already told you: You're not one of the people, who should point with the finger at others and laugh at them. There is an old german phrase: "Touch your own nose", which is in english more like a: "Look who's talking".

I never debate with superman's highest feats, he would never lose a fight then. Superman has done everything you can imagine, fought and won against every kind of enemy you can imagine and shit like that. I don't go on saying that superman beats anyone and everyone, heck most of the time I don't even give winners in a thread.

Also, I only pointed out your absurd sentry love. Nothing more, nothing less. If you're offended, its only because you should be. Your exclamation that sentry is such a complex character that only you've understood it after years of research is the most laughable thing I've ever heard. It even beats quan's "I'm Thanos" gimmick. Congrats.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Also, I only pointed out your absurd sentry love. Nothing more, nothing less. If you're offended, its only because you should be. Your exclamation that sentry is such a complex character that only you've understood it after years of research is the most laughable thing I've ever heard. It even beats quan's "I'm Thanos" gimmick. Congrats.

How does that "absurd sentry love" show?

The fact that I created respect and clarification threads for the characters? If so, then I have far more people thanking me for these threads and I could care less about a person like you bitching about it, so there is nothing to even argue about.

Or do mean that when I say that Sentry beats someone, you don't see him winning against, which then looks like you're putting your opinion above mine and even going over corpses and starting insulting and making pitiful attempts to bash me to make yourself come out on top? Once again, there is nothing to argue about, because the only really absurd thing is your behaviour.

When I say that the Sentry is a complex character, then that has to do with his mental aspects most of the time.

Here is an example: The Sentry, who fought and stalemated World War Hulk was vastly, vastly weakened and that he still had the upper hand in that fight and managed to revert Hulk back to Bruce Banner, but then you have all the people, who start saying that I'm a Sentry lover and trying to make the character look better than he was in the fight and they proceed to tell me that the Sentry was at his highest power level during that fight, while in the end of the day he wasn't.

Here is a different example: Void did not defeat the Molecule Man. Sentry defeated the Molecule Man, yet you have a lot of people saying that Sentry can't do jacksh*t and that it was the Void, who defeated Molecule Man, even though that's not the case.

Here is yet another example: People say that Sentry ripped Ares in half, but he never did. It was the Void, who did that.

Three examples ... On how many of these examples do you agree with the opinion of everyone elses over mine, who knows the character better than you know him and better than most of the people, who want to argue about the character? Not all of the people, but most I've come across.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I never debate with superman's highest feats

You're either taking the piss, or your criteria for "highest feats" is incredibly different to everyone else's.

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Thor gets murked badly IMO

Originally posted by Enzeru
How does that "absurd sentry love" show?

The fact that I created respect and clarification threads for the characters? If so, then I have far more people thanking me for these threads and I could care less about a person like you bitching about it, so there is nothing to even argue about.

Or do mean that when I say that Sentry beats someone, you don't see him winning against, which then looks like you're putting your opinion above mine and even going over corpses and starting insulting and making pitiful attempts to bash me to make yourself come out on top? Once again, there is nothing to argue about, because the only really absurd thing is your behaviour.

When I say that the Sentry is a complex character, then that has to do with his mental aspects most of the time.

Here is an example: The Sentry, who fought and stalemated World War Hulk was vastly, vastly weakened and that he still had the upper hand in that fight and managed to revert Hulk back to Bruce Banner, but then you have all the people, who start saying that I'm a Sentry lover and trying to make the character look better than he was in the fight and they proceed to tell me that the Sentry was at his highest power level during that fight, while in the end of the day he wasn't.

Here is a different example: Void did not defeat the Molecule Man. Sentry defeated the Molecule Man, yet you have a lot of people saying that Sentry can't do jacksh*t and that it was the Void, who defeated Molecule Man, even though that's not the case.

Here is yet another example: People say that Sentry ripped Ares in half, but he never did. It was the Void, who did that.

Three examples ... On how many of these examples do you agree with the opinion of everyone elses over mine, who knows the character better than you know him and better than most of the people, who want to argue about the character? Not all of the people, but most I've come across.

Get this sentry shit out of here for the last time. I have no problems with sentry or void doing this or that. I just don't like the way you take your interpretations and pretend that its really you who wrote the character and the writer who wrote the character knows nothing about the character. You claim Pak used a weakened sentry when its opposite of what he portrayed, you claimed Bendis weakened sentry when he is the one who wrote sentry for a decade and gave him most of his feats. Nobody wants to hear your theories about how sentry was weakened at any time except his high showings or Paul Jenkins' masturbation of a comic.

Originally posted by -Pr-
You're either taking the piss, or your criteria for "highest feats" is incredibly different to everyone else's.

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uhuh

Originally posted by Enzeru
You see, this is the problem with "debating on battle forums.

People like you usually tend to think of everything great their favorite character (in your case Superman) has ever done, while using average and even low showings to "prove" that other characters are less powerful than him / her.

You go even one step further by calling me out on my take on the Sentry and the fact that I like to point out all of the high showings he had, while totally ignoring the fact that you're doing the same for Superman and on top of that you're force feeding everyone with low showings of his opponents in certain debates.
Additionally to that you barely ever really back up your claims. You simply throw out names of characters you either want or expect (lack of knowledge on certain characters) to win. To support that you insult people and talk bad about them.

I already told you: You're not one of the people, who should point with the finger at others and laugh at them. There is an old german phrase: "Touch your own nose", which is in english more like a: "Look who's talking".

Originally posted by abhilegend
Get this sentry shit out of here for the last time. I have no problems with sentry or void doing this or that. I just don't like the way you take your interpretations and pretend that its really you who wrote the character and the writer who wrote the character knows nothing about the character. You claim Pak used a weakened sentry when its opposite of what he portrayed, you claimed Bendis weakened sentry when he is the one who wrote sentry for a decade and gave him most of his feats. Nobody wants to hear your theories about how sentry was weakened at any time except his high showings or Paul Jenkins' masturbation of a comic.

See? That's exactly what I'm talking about.
With that wall of nonsense you've proven every single one of my points.

No wonder that some people here disrespect you and that is the funny thing ... being a nobody and not being taken seriously on the internet is the usual procedure for all of us, but being a nobody and being disrespected on the internet? That's the lowest low you can achieve.

Enjoy your status. I'm done with you.

PS: Just to back up my claims that the Sentry was weakened during his fight against the World War Hulk and to negate everything you wrote above...

http://www.comicvine.com/sentry/4005-1454/forums/sentry-faq-just-how-powerful-is-the-sentry-1479836/#1

Originally posted by Enzeru
See? That's exactly what I'm talking about.
With that wall of nonsense you've proven every single one of my points.

No wonder that some people here disrespect you and that is the funny thing ... being a nobody and not being taken seriously on the internet is the usual procedure for all of us, but being a nobody and being disrespected on the internet? That's the lowest low you can achieve.

Enjoy your status. I'm done with you.

PS: Just to back up my claims that the Sentry was weakened during his fight against the World War Hulk and to negate everything you wrote above...

http://www.comicvine.com/sentry/4005-1454/forums/sentry-faq-just-how-powerful-is-the-sentry-1479836/#1

Holy Conspiracy theory batman!!

Now that you've got that out of your chest, would you please shut up? This thread isn't about sentry.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I write paragraphs, you write wall of texts. Anyway I really don't care about what a bunch of no name people on internet think about me.

Holy Conspiracy theory batman!!

Now that you've got that out of your chest, would you please shut up? This thread isn't about sentry.

Originally posted by Enzeru
No, I just think that strength does not necessarily equal striking.

[b]For Superman:

If I'm capable of benchpressing 200 lbs of steel, that doesn't mean, that I can also punch through 200 lbs of steel.
For Thor:

For the God of Thunder it's the opposite actually ... just because he had the strength to hit his opponents so hard to shatter planets in the process, doesn't mean that he could bench press these planets for few days.
If a writer feels like it, he could do it of course (even though I hope it never happens, because it's stupid), but as for now, he does not have that strength.

You can have a well trained, skinny monk punch through a wood plank or hell maybe even multiple layers of bricks like it's nothing, while an untrained, yet physically superior bodybuilder fails to do so, simply because he lacks the technique and maybe even the mind set to pull that. [/B]

Ure skinny monk statement does not make sense as well.

He indirectly shattered celestial bodies by pounding on Voldemort. He wasn't hammering him with precise kung fu hammer shots to the nerves. That was straight up pure unbridled strength he was employing.

I also never said striking always equals strength. It's common sense. In the case of what Thor did in Godbomb, it would be ridiculous for anyone to think that strength was not the major contributor to the feat.

Lifting strength gives the MINIMUM in which someone can punch with.
For example, if someone can lift 200lb then they can at least apply 200lb of force on their fists.

Now MAs (like Batman and CA) can strike with forces a lot more than their lifting strength due to technique.

With that said, Superman wins this due to being a lot faster. Speed will always be the deciding factor here.

God of Thunder

Superman rips Thor in half.

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Thor rips Superman in half. Lol...One showing doesn't change the outcome of this fight. Hell...Thor showing against Gor>>>>>>Superman showing against Doomsday. At least Gor have fts to let us know how durable he was and Thor hung with him while cracking planets.

Thor 10/10

Carver is in full carter mode today.

Originally posted by carver9
Thor rips Superman in half. Lol...One showing doesn't change the outcome of this fight. Hell...Thor showing against Gor>>>>>>Superman showing against Doomsday. At least Gor have fts to let us know how durable he was and Thor hung with him while cracking planets.

Thor 10/10

Don't go in hysteria yet.

NU Supes can bench the Earth for five days, and wasn't even tired, and it's still not the upper limits of his power.

Going by Superman Doomed, he would rip in half that dumb viking

Originally posted by carver9
Thor rips Superman in half. Lol...One showing doesn't change the outcome of this fight. Hell...Thor showing against Gor>>>>>>Superman showing against Doomsday. At least Gor have fts to let us know how durable he was and Thor hung with him while cracking planets.

Thor 10/10

Yeah, because you weren't talking about "featless" entities during WBH and crediting them as full-blown heralds... Right.

Thor's lightning will own superman just like ocean master's did. Oh and he hits harder than vulko too.

Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
Thor's lightning will own superman just like ocean master's did. Oh and he hits harder than vulko too.

hysterical

Thor has had some horrendous low showing in last few years. But I wouldn't counter your lowballing with more lowballing. As far as magical attacks, Superman has survived attacks from characters and weapons which destroy dozens or hundreds of planets.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Or he could resist it like he did against Lexus who was shown destroying planets and the blast would've killed Pax Galactica. A single member of Pax was strong enough to break a continent sized worldship apart in a single strike and match Superman in strength.

http://i.imgur.com/xkfT3kF.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/UNv1dRW.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jOkb4GM.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/podSZ5P.jpg

Although he was temporarily KOED, he was unaware that the blast was magical to begin with.

http://i.imgur.com/NGyNqYp.jpg

And Lexus was powerful enough to destroy dozen of planets when he was just learning his powers.

http://i.imgur.com/TdhNlLG.jpg

So not seeing how its just that easy for John to beat Superman here when Superman can take blasts from planet busters.

http://i.imgur.com/tZcjkT0.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/8MPLjbE.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/SVzfcLz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/GqSAju0.jpg

But only low showings count for Superman, right?