Just to recap..
Who wins?
The Skrulls prep for war, but don't know what powered beings are there on DcCNU Earth when they attack..
No outside help..Just the Skrulls and the Earth based powered Beings of DCNU..
Super-Skrull leads a army of Super-Skrulls trained warriors to invade DCNU Earth..Goal is to rule the Earth..Under his Command are as followed..
1000 X-SkrullsPowers of:
Wolverine
Colossus
Emma Frost
Storm
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1000 FF-SkrullPowers of:
Reed
Sue
Thing
Torch
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1000 Defender-SkrullPowers of:
Hulk
Dr.Strange
Silver Surfer
Namor
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1000 Avenger-SkrullPowers of:
Hank Pym
Wonder Man
Ms.Marvel
Vision
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1000 Normal Skrulls
With Blasters and Gliders
Originally posted by DarkSaint85While I'm not claiming to be an expert on all things DC, I do know that if a threat such as 1000 Skrulls suddenly metastasized on DC Earth the JLA isn't gonna "sit this one out" and see what happens. As for Stormwatch it's true that they are a secretive organization but they aren't completely unknown. A tp probe of the UN, which would be consistent with Skills tactics, would reveal their existence. As for Rot and Red, Cadmus , Starr Labs, and Watchtower computers would provide Intel. 2000 Pym and Richards level intelligence Skills would be more than capable of creating a counter measure.
So supposing they don't enter the battle till later?We also forgot Stormwatch. Who don't exist on any databases - and have Jenny Soul on the payroll.
And before you ask, yes, their entire raison d'etre is detecting and dealing with alien incursions. Think of them as S.W.O.R.D, except less sucky.
How many minds can the X-Skrull rape in the invasion?
Many DC People could be maked to walk around to just drooling ..
Crazy healing factor Wolverine/Hulk..
Nova heat from 1000 FF-Skrulls...
Think 3000 of them can go intagable..
They can mess with the weather..
Cosimc Awarness..
High intel minds..
Energy absorbers..
Many other power yet to be named..
Originally posted by Brockalizer
While I'm not claiming to be an expert on all things DC, I do know that if a threat such as 1000 Skrulls suddenly metastasized on DC Earth the JLA isn't gonna "sit this one out" and see what happens. As for Stormwatch it's true that they are a secretive organization but they aren't completely unknown. A tp probe of the UN, which would be consistent with Skills tactics, would reveal their existence. As for Rot and Red, Cadmus , Starr Labs, and Watchtower computers would provide Intel. 2000 Pym and Richards level intelligence Skills would be more than capable of creating a counter measure.
I don't think even the UN know about them. They're that secretive.
I didn't know that the Skrulls had the intelligence of Pym and Reed, just their powers?
And as good as that sounds, this all then boils down to plot devices.
'Spectres will destroy them all with a wave of his pinky!'
'ReedSkrull will whip up an anti-Spectre weapon!'
'Maxine Baker would turn them all into green puddles of goo!'
'StrangeSkrull will banish them all to Hell!'
Originally posted by Supermex
How many minds can the X-Skrull rape in the invasion?Many DC People could be maked to walk around to just drooling ..
Crazy healing factor Wolverine/Hulk..
Nova heat from 1000 FF-Skrulls...
Think 3000 of them can go intagable..
They can mess with the weather..
Cosimc Awarness..
High intel minds..
Energy absorbers..
Many other power yet to be named..
Shall we just give in and let you have your fantasy of seeing DC Earth destroyed? Obviously you didn't like when people started talking about DC actually being able to fight back, and might actually win!
After all, Justice League Dark has (had?) Madame Xanadu, who can predict the future.
She tells Constantine.
Constantine infiltrates the Skrulls with Deadman.
Deadman possesses Super Skrull as the commander of the army.
DeadmanSkrull completely messes the Skrull invasion plan right up. Payback's a *****, let's see how the Skrulls like being infiltrated.
Constantine tells the JL and JLA they now owe him one.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Shall we just give in and let you have your fantasy of seeing DC Earth destroyed? Obviously you didn't like when people started talking about DC actually being able to fight back, and might actually win!After all, Justice League Dark has (had?) Madame Xanadu, who can predict the future.
She tells Constantine.
Constantine infiltrates the Skrulls with Deadman.
Deadman possesses Super Skrull as the commander of the army.
DeadmanSkrull completely ****s the Skrull invasion plan right up.
Constantine tells the JL and JLA they now owe him one.
I point out random powers and your ready to conside?
Not that I don't like it, I just haven't seen enough proof
That the invasion won't work..
Why is that hard for you to see and then come at me like that?
I looked up on all of them and so far everything Iv seen doesn't tell me they stop the invasion..
Originally posted by DarkSaint85Not 100% positive about Pym, but Reed learned that his enhanced intelligence was an additional power gained during the accident that gave him his powers when he encountered an alternate version of himself that wasn't exposed to cosmic rays. As for Stormwatch, again I will be the first to admit that I am not that familiar with the group as a whole, so this is purely speculation, but the Shadow Cabinet, which runs Stormwatch is known by the JLA.
I don't think even the UN know about them. They're that secretive.I didn't know that the Skrulls had the intelligence of Pym and Reed, just their powers?
Originally posted by Supermex
I point out random powers and your ready to conside?Not that I don't like it, I just haven't seen enough proof
That the invasion won't work..
Why is that hard for you to see and then come at me like that?
I looked up on all of them and so far everything Iv seen doesn't tell me they stop the invasion..
Lol not that I'm ready to concede....
We (not just I) have already said, with an infiltration it could work, but all out war, no way.
And whilst you could take Golgo's judgements with a pinch of salt regarding DC, or even mine, pym-ftw is pretty sound. as is iceman's and rage's (who asked if cosmic beings were present).
You admit that you don't know anything about the opposition (so a bit like the Skrulls).
And then when Brock showed up with a way for Skrulls to win (which initially involved infiltration, which you specifically said wasn't the case), you started fawning over him.
I mean, for example, in his second strategy, 'whilst the 1000 FF are slowly but surely being dealt with...'
In a comic, maybe. In a forum battle, Flash takes all the ones on the ground, Superman/MM takes everyone else in the air. There will be no time whatsoever for the other Skrulls in this gathering of intel. Much less time for them to sit down and synthesis weaponry - it took them ages to do that with the Illuminati.
You say you have seen what the Red/Green/Rot can do, and have found them wanting - just as an example.
Ok, what would the Skrulls do? And 'creating weapons to defeat them', isn't really an answer, any more so than 'Cyborg opens a portal up and BFRs them all to Apokolips FTW'.
This of course ignores the Spectre/Phantom Stranger etc on DC Earth.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol not that I'm ready to concede....We (not just I) have already said, with an infiltration it could work, but all out war, no way.
And whilst you could take Golgo's judgements with a pinch of salt regarding DC, or even mine, pym-ftw is pretty sound. as is iceman's and rage's (who asked if cosmic beings were present).
You admit that you don't know anything about the opposition (so a bit like the Skrulls).
And then when Brock showed up with a way for Skrulls to win (which initially involved infiltration, which you specifically said wasn't the case), you started fawning over him.
I mean, for example, in his second strategy, 'whilst the 1000 FF are slowly but surely being dealt with...'
In a comic, maybe. In a forum battle, Flash takes all the ones on the ground, Superman/MM takes everyone else in the air. There will be no time whatsoever for the other Skrulls in this gathering of intel. Much less time for them to sit down and synthesis weaponry - it took them ages to do that with the Illuminati.
You say you have seen what the Red/Green/Rot can do, and have found them wanting - just as an example.
Ok, what would the Skrulls do? And 'creating weapons to defeat them', isn't really an answer, any more so than 'Cyborg opens a portal up and BFRs them all to Apokolips FTW'.
This of course ignores the Spectre/Phantom Stranger etc on DC Earth.
Thing is that Brock gave ways that Skrull could win this..
While some when it came to DC side just thou out names
Sounds like you choose to ingnore the powers of the Super-Skrulls to make your case..
How can I side with you with that kind of logic..
If you give me a sound counter attack against the Skrulls, I
to will boner up for you like I did for Brock..
FINE!
I want you to boner up for me so bad.
I'm going to bullet point this, because it's pretty long.
Scene 1
Location: DC Earth.
Madame Xanadu foresees a great and terrible army heading for Earth. Telling Constantine, he tells the heroes of Earth of an impeding army. No details are given (she's not that good), only that they should be ready.
Scene 2
Location: The Bleed
The Skrull army is travelling between dimensions, and is heading for DC from Marvel. They encounter....Stormwatch, who are merrily bipbopping along in the Carrier. For simplicity's sake, I shall use the prerewrite of Stormwatch, so with Jenny Quantum rather than the Weird.
In the ensuing battle, Stormwatch is lost. But the Carrier was rammed into one of the troop ships (or several? It is a rather big ship), taking out the 1000 Avenger Skrulls.
'Should we press on, Commander?'
SuperSkrull gives the order to continue.
Scene 3
Location: Earth.
As per Brock's tactics, the first wave of normy Skrulls attack Earth, as an advance guard. The Defender Skrulls go collate info - but they must wait until they know where to go.
We all know SuperSkrull isn't the type to lead from the back. He personally leads the first wave, eager to take his revenge for his fallen brothers.
They meet resistance from the JLA, the norms are massacred. Super Skrull barely escapes with his life. But, now he knows where to atta-
'Wow, pretty roomy in here, isn't it?'
Deadman possesses Super Skrull. Constantine watches from the shadows.
Scene 4
Location: Skrull command ship
'Where shall we attack, Sir?' the Defender Skrulls want to know.
Super Dead Skrull directs them to a location on Earth. They all amass there - it seems strange tactics, but is he not loved by Him? Is he not their Supreme War Leader?
The Defender Skrulls get taken off the playing field when they get BFRed by Cyborg. However, this tips the Skrulls off, who realise their commander is possessed. Deadman is forcibly ejected, maybe even discoporated. Before leaving his body, Deadman activates a self destruct (all good ships have them). It's the main command ship, so this takes out....a lot of the X-Skrulls (they are more powerful IMO than the FF, so they would be on the main ship). Constantine feels the sacrifice of his friend was necessary.
Scene 5
Location: DC Earth
Leaderless and confused, the remaining 1000 FF Skrulls decide to go out in a blaze of glory, and attack Earth.
Where they find the various heroes and maybe even villains waiting for them.
Much more manageable, don't you think?
And should these 1000 leaderless Skrulls prevail (and we've seen, without leadership they aren't exactly a fearsome fighting force) THEN the Big Guns step in (Spectre, for example).
Scene 6
Location: Reality
Golgo and I simultaneously ejaculate. It's beautiful.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
FINE!I want you to boner up for me so bad.
I'm going to bullet point this, because it's pretty long.
Scene 1
Location: DC Earth.
Madame Xanadu foresees a great and terrible army heading for Earth. Telling Constantine, he tells the heroes of Earth of an impeding army. No details are given (she's not that good), only that they should be ready.Scene 2
Location: The Bleed
The Skrull army is travelling between dimensions, and is heading for DC from Marvel. They encounter....Stormwatch, who are merrily bipbopping along in the Carrier. For simplicity's sake, I shall use the prerewrite of Stormwatch, so with Jenny Quantum rather than the Weird.In the ensuing battle, Stormwatch is lost. But the Carrier was rammed into one of the troop ships (or several? It is a rather big ship), taking out the 1000 Avenger Skrulls.
'Should we press on, Commander?'
SuperSkrull gives the order to continue.
Scene 3
Location: Earth.
As per Brock's tactics, the first wave of normy Skrulls attack Earth, as an advance guard. The Defender Skrulls go collate info - but they must wait until they know where to go.We all know SuperSkrull isn't the type to lead from the back. He personally leads the first wave, eager to take his revenge for his fallen brothers.
They meet resistance from the JLA, the norms are massacred. Super Skrull barely escapes with his life. But, now he knows where to atta-
'Wow, pretty roomy in here, isn't it?'
Deadman possesses Super Skrull. Constantine watches from the shadows.
Scene 4
Location: Skrull command ship
'Where shall we attack, Sir?' the Defender Skrulls want to know.Super Dead Skrull directs them to a location on Earth. They all amass there - it seems strange tactics, but is he not loved by Him? Is he not their Supreme War Leader?
The Defender Skrulls get taken off the playing field when they get BFRed by Cyborg. However, this tips the Skrulls off, who realise their commander is possessed. Deadman is forcibly ejected, maybe even discoporated. Before leaving his body, Deadman activates a self destruct (all good ships have them). It's the main command ship, so this takes out....a lot of the X-Skrulls (they are more powerful IMO than the FF, so they would be on the main ship). Constantine feels the sacrifice of his friend was necessary.
Scene 5
Location: DC Earth
Leaderless and confused, the remaining 1000 FF Skrulls decide to go out in a blaze of glory, and attack Earth.Where they find the various heroes and maybe even villains waiting for them.
Much more manageable, don't you think?
And should these 1000 leaderless Skrulls prevail (and we've seen, without leadership they aren't exactly a fearsome fighting force) THEN the Big Guns step in (Spectre, for example).
Scene 6
Location: Reality
Golgo and I simultaneously ejaculate. It's beautiful.
Kool thanks Darksaint
If everything goes as easy as you say, than ya Dc Earth might survive this ..
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Wait, do these Skrull's have only a portion of the power of each team or do they get full abilities?If it's full powers, DC Earth gets stomped hard. DC Earth and Marvel Earth together would get wrecked. I think a 1000 Skrulls with the powers of Strange, Surfer, Namor, and Hulk are more then sufficient to take over either planet.
I mean obviously in a story they'd lose and Earth would win but in a straight up fight on paper without ninja syndrome, how is this much of a contest? Are Cosmic Beings like the Spectre being included or something? Otherwise, you'd need the Justice League to just take down 1 Defender Super Skrull.
exactly this.... I mean 1000 x sorcerer supreme or silver surfer power?
com on. it will boil down to any major (and i mean major) guns taking action.
on the other hand skrulls are scrbs so....