Originally posted by KingD19
Well the .357 isn't even a gun. It's an ammo type. So there's no way to gauge.
Ha, I see what you did, there.
Originally posted by Galan007
That said, the bullet Ozy caught could have been a .38spc round, fired from a .357mag frame. Even if that was the case,
Ha! More gun puns.
Originally posted by KingD19
But, a .357 more than likely would have put a hole in his hand and done mor than spun him around.
1. In the comic, he caught the bullet with an unarmored hand.
2. He spun to catch the bullet at speed rather than taking a bullet through his hand (think of it like catching a water balloon: you don't just let it flop into your hands, you fall with the balloon so the "deceleration" of the balloon occurs over a longer period of time).
i think it was both that and the velocity pulling him around. either way: assuming a human of regular-strength-yet-super-speed attempted that, he would only manage to be fast enough to move his hand toward the proper place to be shredded apart or punctured. even if the glove was super-armor to prevent penetration, the impact force would have shattered every bone in his hand. thats why i disagree sharply with the popular notion that doc manhattan was the only one with super powers.
Ozymandias is a bit of ***** tho. 😆
Khan, because blondey boy displayed no strength feat Khan couldn't pull off and we all know how he beat a bunch of old out of practice crime fighters, obsessing over the weaknesses in their styles. Lol, Ozy got ****ed up by Comedian, God knows what Khan would do to the pretty boy.
Riddick would waste him even worse than Khan would.
i think in the end, watchmen and khan are incompatible topics.
they seem to have widely differing standards of strength and agility feats for unaltered humans, as well as the effects of physics and gravity on them.
khan is a genetically engineered super-human in the same universe that would never allow bullet-catching to occur, even for him.
also, no non-tampered human in the entire star trek universe can send a 200+ pound man airborne with a punch...and ozy is by all accounts genetically just a plain ol human.
Originally posted by Galan007
Most likely.An average .38spc /w/ full-metal jacket delivers about 18,000psi, and about 250ft. lbs of muzzle energy/force. A peak human isn't one-hand catching that without spinning a little.
You're looking for kinetic energy/momentum of a bullet.
That's simply mass*velocity.
Use kilograms and m/s to figure out how much momentum something has:
Muzzle Velocity: 800 fps
Muzzle Energy: 185 ft. lbs.
Muzzle Velocity: 890 fps
Muzzle Energy: 229 ft. lbs.
So I'll go with 890fps
p = (130*0.0648)*(890*0.3048)
p = 485.8320 g m/s = .4858 kg m/s
To put that into perspective, a champion welterweight boxer can generate 400 kg m/s in his punches. That's enough to knock most normal people over.
400/.4858 = 823
What does that mean? A welterweight's punch has 823 times the momentum of that bullet at muzzle velocity.
The momentum of the bullet is likely significantly less by the time it hits its target because it loses energy quickly in the air while traveling to the target.
Basically, I'm saying that bullets do not deliver that much force, at all, to stuff. The reason they seem so powerful is that they are tiny objects traveling at very high speeds and the strength of the material (flesh and bone) that is struck but such a fast moving object is not able to withstand the sheering and compression forces upon impact. Translation: you skin is not tough enough to stand up to a tiny sharp object traveling super fast.
Originally posted by dadudemonWe are talking about a bullet...moving at that speed...with that force...hitting a single hand.
Basically, I'm saying that bullets do not deliver that much force, at all, to stuff. The reason they seem so powerful is that they are tiny objects traveling at very high speeds and the strength of the material (flesh and bone) that is struck but such a fast moving object is not able to withstand the sheering and compression forces upon impact. Translation: you skin is not tough enough to stand up to a tiny sharp object traveling super fast.
Because the bullet didn't penetrate*giggity* Ozy's hand due to his armored palm, said energies would have instead been dispersed throughout his entire hand/arm. In short: I don't think it's out of the question for the bullet to have contributed to his 180 degree(ish) spin. It may not have, but I think it's possible.
...Not that it matters in the slightest to the main topic. /shrug
Originally posted by Galan007
We are talking about a bullet...moving at that speed...with that force...hitting a single hand.Because the bullet didn't penetrate*giggity* Ozy's hand due to his armored palm, said energies would have instead been dispersed throughout his entire hand/arm. In short: I don't think it's out of the question for the bullet to have contributed to his 180 degree(ish) spin. It may not have, but I think it's possible.
...Not that it matters in the slightest to the main topic. /shrug
Mythbusters tested it: they suspended a pig on a very precariously balanced rig that would fall off at the littlest of forces: bullets couldn't do shit. They even armored the pig so it would absorb as much energy as possible.
They even revisted the myth with a 50 caliber attempt: still nada.
Blown Away is the myth/episode.
Originally posted by focus4chumps
blocking punches is not the same as stopping a punch with your hand. when blocking with his arms, his body is also absorbing force. his arm and hand were suspended so it was only his arm/hand/shoulders which absorbed that force.
Thanks for clarifying something my post did not contradict (go back and read it, again 😄).
You like arguing with posts (or a fence, wall, poop), don't you?