RoT Bane, HoT and Hord vs Anakin, Caedus and RotS Sidious

Started by Nephthys3 pages

RoT Bane, HoT and Hord vs Anakin, Caedus and RotS Sidious

Because my thread idea was betterer than Hans.

Fight takes place Mandalore, where Sidious fought the Maul bros.

IDK if you were rooting for your Old and Ancient masturbatory fantasies to win here, but they get their shit stomped in.

Actually, I think this is quite a balanced thread.

Sidious takes out HoT with FL.
Anakin and Bane start fighting, but Sidious quickly comes over and takes out Bane with FL.
Hord prepares to get one shotted by Caedus, but instead gets one shotted by Sidious with FL.

And I'm not kidding, either.

I think you are, since you've never displayed any signs of insanity before now.

Sidious isn't taking out the HoT with lightning. The HoT was able to defend against Vitiates lightning quite well, which is comparable to Sidious' own lightning, slightly below at worst. But they were on a nexus so it doesn't matter.

The way I see it Bane and Sidious are equal, Caedus and Hord are either equal or Hords superior and Anakin and the HoT is either equal or the HoT is superior. It will be a tough fight either way.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Sidious isn't taking out the HoT with lightning. The HoT was able to defend against Vitiates lightning quite well, which is comparable to Sidious' own lightning, slightly below at worst. But they were on a nexus so it doesn't matter.

Nah. Sidious's lightning pushed vaapad-Windu to his limits.


The way I see it Bane and Sidious are equal,

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Caedus and Hord are either equal or Hords superior

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and Anakin and the HoT is either equal or the HoT is superior.

Depends on Anakin's mental state.

Originally posted by Master Han
Nah. Sidious's lightning pushed vaapad-Windu to his limits.

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Depends on Anakin's mental state.

Which explains why Mace is able to push his llightsaber towards Sidious' face. Y'know, cuz he was soooo pushed........ forward...... 😕

You know its true bro. Orbalisks are too broken.

You know this shit is true bro! Hord soloed armies of Jedi and ripped capital ships from the sky. He can at least match Jacen.

No Zonakin. I hate talking about him like that. sneer

Originally posted by Nephthys
Which explains why Mace is able to push his llightsaber towards Sidious' face. Y'know, cuz he was soooo pushed........ forward...... 😕

Yeah, but he was exhausted and visibly struggling. And this Windu is Palpatine's equal, so...


You know its true bro. Orbalisks are too broken.

Oh, they're certainly breaking to FL. And why does Bane get orbalisks?


You know this shit is true bro! Hord soloed armies of Jedi and ripped capital ships from the sky. He can at least match Jacen.

No, he can't. We've been over this before.

Originally posted by Master Han
Yeah, but he was exhausted and visibly struggling. And this Windu is Palpatine's equal, so...

He was having trouble and it took effort, yes, but he was hardly pushed to his limit as some claim. He was overpowering the lightning and doing good enough that he could advance through it.

Originally posted by Master Han
Oh, they're certainly breaking to FL. And why does Bane get orbalisks?

Or maybe Sidious will die to Banes FL. At least with Bane the orbalisks actually give him increased resistance to lightning, meaning that if he can't outright block Sidious' lightning with his lightsaber he can still resist it enough for the orbalisks to take up the slack.

He gets orbalisks because its RoT Bane dummy.

Originally posted by Master Han
No, he can't. We've been over this before.

No you. Hord can definitely take on Jacen. His TK is better and he's at least equal with a lightsaber. The guys just a better fighter. As I recall, in LotF Caedus was having trouble against a mere 20 shooters. Meanwhile Hord's taking on a thousand Jedi at once and winning.

Originally posted by Master Han
Sidious takes out HoT with FL.
Anakin and Bane start fighting, but Sidious quickly comes over and takes out Bane with FL.
Hord prepares to get one shotted by Caedus, but instead gets one shotted by Sidious with FL.

And I'm not kidding, either.


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That made my day 👆

BTW. Team two wins. 😮‍💨

Bane>Anakin
Hero<Caedus
Hord<Sidious

Team 2 wins.

Also, Neph, Tulak Hord's feats are likely to be exaggerated intensely, considering Khem Val worships him like a deity, and would logically want to make his master seem like so. No one is soloing 1,000 Jedi, and there's no way there's 1,000 Jedi on a SINGLE battlefront, or there'd have to be something like a million+ Jedi in the galaxy which is retarded.

http://www.swtor.com/holonet/companions/khem-val

"History: Devoured over a thousand Jedi at the battles of Yn and Chabosh."

"Under Tulak Hord's command, Khem Val devored the life energy from thousands of Jedi at the battles of Yn and Chabosh. One of Khem's proudest victories came during the battle of Chabosh, where he fought by Tulak Hord's side to conquer an army of Jedi 1,000 strong." - SWTORE

Its stated that Khem devoured energy from thousands, plural, in both battles and then stated that the Battle of Chabosh was against one thousand Jedi. Therefore the Battle of Yn should have at least a thousand Jedi in it, meaning Tulak Hord solo'ed an army of 1,000 Jedi since he soloed the siege of Yn.

Also there are milions of Sith in Vitiates Empire, so there being millions of Jedi is hardly implausible.

Originally posted by Nephthys
He was having trouble and it took effort, yes, but he was hardly pushed to his limit as some claim.

You mean like yourself? This was precisely your claim in the B team vs. Vitiate thread.


Or maybe Sidious will die to Banes FL.

Except no, because Sidious's lightning is more powerful, because Sidious himself is more powerful, and faster.

At least with Bane the orbalisks actually give him increased resistance to lightning,

If Sidious overpowers Bane's defenses, he's f*cked, orbalisks or no; and the lightning will kill the orbalisks, causing them to release deadly toxins into Bane's system.

meaning that if he can't outright block Sidious' lightning with his lightsaber he can still resist it enough for the orbalisks to take up the slack.

No, he can't. Especially since Bane's fighting style, which explicitly forgoes any pretense of defense, sort of leaves him open.


He gets orbalisks because its RoT Bane dummy.

And as this is RotS Sidious, does he get his army?


No you. Hord can definitely take on Jacen. His TK is better

No, it isn't. We've been over this before; pulling a ship down is so vague as to be useless information.


and he's at least equal with a lightsaber.

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As I recall, in LotF Caedus was having trouble against a mere 20 shooters.

And Revan, who nearly beat Vitiate on a dark side nexus, nearly died to six mandos. Caedus toyed with an equivalent amount with a broken arm.

Woah, look! An actual debate, my threads already better than yours. Guess I win this round arsehole.

Originally posted by Master Han
You mean like yourself? This was precisely your claim in the B team vs. Vitiate thread.

I believe that was before I looked at the actual scene in question and re-evaluated it.

Originally posted by Master Han
Except no, because Sidious's lightning is more powerful, because Sidious himself is more powerful, and faster.

Except no it isn't, no he isn't and no he isn't. Am I doing the word thing good?

Sidious' lightning isn't more powerful than Banes. Both have disintegrated shit with their lightning. Except Bane did it days after PoD with only 2 orbalisks. Imagine how powerful his lightning would be after 10 extra years of increased power and Force mastery with his whole body covered in orbalisks.

Originally posted by Master Han
If Sidious overpowers Bane's defenses, he's f*cked, orbalisks or no; and the lightning will kill the orbalisks, causing them to release deadly toxins into Bane's system.

No, he isn't. Banes obalisks shrugged off over a million volts in RoT. With Bane blunting the attack, Sidious will surely be unable to destroy the orbalisks that way.

Originally posted by Master Han
No, he can't. Especially since Bane's fighting style, which explicitly forgoes any pretense of defense, sort of leaves him open.

Against Jedi who he was far more powerful than. Bane isn't a twit, when he senses how powerful Sidious is he's not going to leave himself open. It isn't like Bane isn't fast enough to block Sidious' lightning, cmon dude.

Originally posted by Master Han
And as this is RotS Sidious, does he get his army?

Yes.

Oh, except there aren't any on Mandalore too bad.

Originally posted by Master Han
No, it isn't. We've been over this before; pulling a ship down is so vague as to be useless information.

No it isn't. You've given no reason why it should be invalid and your points about how he could have done it are completely faulty and worthless.

Originally posted by Master Han
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Laugh it up chuckles. The fact is that Tulak Hord solo'ed entire Jedi armies and possessed legendary lightsaber skills that made the Kotor-era look like children in comparison.

Originally posted by Master Han
And Revan, who nearly beat Vitiate on a dark side nexus, nearly died to six mandos. Caedus toyed with an equivalent amount with a broken arm.

Maybe the mando's Caedus fought were shitty.

The fact is 6 mandos still is peanuts compared to 1,000 Jedi. 🙂

Originally posted by Nephthys
http://www.swtor.com/holonet/companions/khem-val

"History: Devoured over a thousand Jedi at the battles of Yn and Chabosh."

"Under Tulak Hord's command, Khem Val devored the life energy from thousands of Jedi at the battles of Yn and Chabosh. One of Khem's proudest victories came during the battle of Chabosh, where he fought by Tulak Hord's side to conquer an army of Jedi 1,000 strong." - SWTORE

Its stated that Khem devoured energy from thousands, plural, in both battles and then stated that the Battle of Chabosh was against one thousand Jedi. Therefore the Battle of Yn should have at least a thousand Jedi in it, meaning Tulak Hord solo'ed an army of 1,000 Jedi since he soloed the siege of Yn.

Also there are milions of Sith in Vitiates Empire, so there being millions of Jedi is hardly implausible.

But that would also imply that the PT Era Jedi Order is massively--Unthinkably--inferior to that of the TOR era's JO. Which makes no sense because the PT era was one of the Jedi's best days. The "Golden Age" and "The Prime of the Jedi" if you will. So...?

Also, Tulak didn't solo either way. Cause he had Khem Val, and it also states nowhere that he didn't also have his own squad of Sith with him.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
But that would also imply that the PT Era Jedi Order is massively--Unthinkably--inferior to that of the TOR era's JO.

Yes, it does, doesn't it? >:]

Tulak soloing the battle of Yn comes from Khems account of the story:

YouTube video

2.10 onwards.

"On Yn, the Jedi had laid siege to an imperial stronghold. Tulak Hord broke the siege single-handedly!" Khem only fought with him in the battle of Chabosh.

He also confirms that he feasted upon armies of Jedi. Tulak Hord also feasted on the energy of the Jedi in Yn and Chabosh 'growing his power and vitality.'

Originally posted by Nephthys
Woah, look! An actual debate, my threads already better than yours. Guess I win this round arsehole.

Actually, everyone's just gathering around to laugh at you. So if that was your intention,


I believe that was before I looked at the actual scene in question and re-evaluated it.

OK, but while HoT is struggling against Palpy's lightning, Caedus shoots his own lightning and kills him. Or Anakin tosses his saber. It's not as if they can't multitask.


Sidious' lightning isn't more powerful than Banes. Both have disintegrated shit with their lightning. Except Bane did it days after PoD with only 2 orbalisks. Imagine how powerful his lightning would be after 10 extra years of increased power and Force mastery with his whole body covered in orbalisks.

Except Sidious has killed fifty stormtroopers at the same time with lightning, and disintegrated massive zillo beasts. He also pushed Yoda to his limits.


No, he isn't. Banes obalisks shrugged off over a million volts in RoT. With Bane blunting the attack, Sidious will surely be unable to destroy the orbalisks that way.

It's not a matter of volts, but amps. I somehow doubt those assassin's electrostaffs compare to Palpatine's FL, lol.


Against Jedi who he was far more powerful than. Bane isn't a twit, when he senses how powerful Sidious is he's not going to leave himself open. It isn't like Bane isn't fast enough to block Sidious' lightning, cmon dude.

Yoda made that mistake.


Oh, except there aren't any on Mandalore too bad.

Does the Empire control Mandalore?


No it isn't. You've given no reason why it should be invalid and your points about how he could have done it are completely faulty and worthless.

Define pulling a ship down. Feel free to elaborate on how this happened.


Laugh it up chuckles. The fact is that Tulak Hord solo'ed entire Jedi armies and possessed legendary lightsaber skills that made the Kotor-era look like children in comparison.

So what? Palpatine soloed 10,000 Jedi and killed off quintillions of battle droids. See how I can embellish facts?


Maybe the mando's Caedus fought were shitty.

Or maybe they weren't.


The fact is 6 mandos still is peanuts compared to 1,000 Jedi. 🙂

Darn that. Sidious took care of quintillions of battle droids and literally blew up a planet.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Yes, it does, doesn't it? >:]

Tulak soloing the battle of Yn comes from Khems account of the story:

YouTube video

2.10 onwards.

"On Yn, the Jedi had laid siege to an imperial stronghold. Tulak Hord broke the siege single-handedly!" Khem only fought with him in the battle of Chabosh.

He also confirms that he feasted upon armies of Jedi. Tulak Hord also feasted on the energy of the Jedi in Yn and Chabosh 'growing his power and vitality.'

"Single-Handedly" doesn't mean he did it alone. He could have broken the siege with a much smaller force, but it cannot be assumed that this means he did it alone.

Also, that's just not happening. TOR era can't stomp PT era Jedi. I could see them being the victors in a war, but outnumbering them 100 to one at least? The ****?

Erm, that is what 'single-handedly' means.

sin·gle-hand·ed (snggl-hndd)
adj.
1. Working or done without help; unassisted.

It is happening. Face it bro, the TOR-era Order is much bigger and would shit in the PT-eras mouth.

Bane is being undersold here.