Hyperion VS Silver Surfer

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Hyperion seems quite powerful but give him some time and he will get his share of low feats like the other Superman clones (Gladiator, Sentry...)

I think he is a solid Herald level being, in the league with Thor and Surfer, but those two are the most prominent and thus should take a slight majority.

Regardless of who is more prominent or not, all that matters is what happens in comics.

And while most of you people may not know Hyperion beyond his sudden appearance in the main series of avengers, I have been reading on Hyperion in comics for a long, long while. And he takes surfer. I have no doubt.

So your argument is basically a no limits fallacy?

Originally posted by RockofAges
The fact remains that I've seen Silver Surfer defeated on more than one occasion. Silver Surfer even has trouble agaisnt Nova when the full Nova force is being held back by the world mind, much less when it's all released.

Hyperion on the other hand I've never once seen beaten in a fight. Not even during Exiles, which was one of his longest runs. Ive never once had any proof that Hyperion can be stopped, and it's been stated several times that he's invincible. Not just during Exiles, but during Avengers as well as Superior Spider Man Team Up.

And one shotting Alephs is hardly anything special, even Cap has done it with his shield.

Different Hyperion.

Apparently not. En masse, they can seemingly destroy a planet though.

gladiator beat the old hyperion straight up. thor has done likewise, so not sure where the idea that he's never been beaten before comes from.....

Originally posted by RockofAges
Regardless of who is more prominent or not, all that matters is what happens in comics.

And while most of you people may not know Hyperion beyond his sudden appearance in the main series of avengers, I have been reading on Hyperion in comics for a long, long while. And he takes surfer. I have no doubt.

This isn't the same Hyperion that you have read about for years though is it? I simply don't see him as having enough feats to give him the victory here yet.

Originally posted by leonidas
gladiator beat the old hyperion straight up.

But he's still not beating Surfer.

Originally posted by Stoic
This isn't the same Hyperion that you have read about for years though is it? I simply don't see him as having enough feats to give him the victory here yet.

True.

But unless Hyperions have different power sets based on which universe they're from (which is unlikely), I quite frankly simply cannot see Silver Surfer defeating him. King Hyperion is a far better fighter and combatant than 616 Hyperion, thats without doubt, but when it comes to what powers they have, they are in the end the same guy. I'm not convinced Surfer can beat him.

And how would Hype beat surfer, he doesn`t have anything like surfers versatility, and his strength is nothing surfer hasn`t faced before. His heat vision would be next to useless against such a high level energy manipulator etc

Vision actually beat hyperion in straight slugfest once.

Cool.

Hyperion beats SS to death with Vision.

Originally posted by RockofAges
The fact remains that I've seen Silver Surfer defeated on more than one occasion. Silver Surfer even has trouble agaisnt Nova when the full Nova force is being held back by the world mind, much less when it's all released.

Hyperion on the other hand I've never once seen beaten in a fight. Not even during Exiles, which was one of his longest runs. Ive never once had any proof that Hyperion can be stopped, and it's been stated several times that he's invincible. Not just during Exiles, but during Avengers as well as Superior Spider Man Team Up.

And one shotting Alephs is hardly anything special, even Cap has done it with his shield.

You're talking about a different Hyp. The thread is with the current Hyp, who actually has been defeated. He was taken out by the adapting robot thing, along with the other Avengers. The fact that his mind was compromised in Superior Spiderman is itself a defeat. Like I said, every hero has defeats. Hyp included.

When did Cap one-shot kill an Aleph?

An aleph sent him to the hospital in like 3 punches. Considering its Cap were talking about, that's not something many class 100s can say they've done.

Originally posted by JayDaDon
An aleph sent him to the hospital in like 3 punches. Considering its Cap were talking about, that's not something many class 100s can say they've done.

O-Kay ... I may have slightly under-estimated these mock-Ultrons.

Still, they aren't very powerful, takes a whole blummin' squadron of the things to "raise a planet".

One slightly miffed Herald [of Galactus] could easily match that.