Originally posted by Galan007Kinda sorta? I mean Barry was the one who cracked it solo IIRC she just used him to put it back together so we know where the energy is coming from the don't know enough about Dharma but at least legion did it on his own. That is to say if they are all 3d Printers they are all top of the line but Pandora got a solo nuclear plant to power hers while Legion got the wall outlet.
Legion mucked with a universe.
Dharma created a universe, and merged it with the mainstream DC universe.
Pandora merged 3 separate multiverses into a singular multiverse.Barry's help or not, Pandora's feat is
severalinfinite orders of magnitude beyond the other two.
it was never stated that it was 3 multiverses, but wildstorm, vertigo and DC are 3 separate multiverses (i posted this a while back, here it is again):
Pandora merged them together in flashpoint #5:
http://i.imgur.com/wVG3gKc.jpg
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DC in 2011 had a multiverse (everyone knows that)
VERTIGO: it contains countless universes:
lucifer #37
http://i.imgur.com/qYnOJ1z.jpg
each mirror resembles a universe, and there are countless mirrors
http://i.imgur.com/H7UopQl.jpg
this is also confirmed when we see an alternate version of cal, lucifer #39
http://i.imgur.com/95E4goS.jpg
WILDSTORM: it contains a multiverse, planatery #1:
http://i.imgur.com/bZt6BET.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/VwmWNPj.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/3pan7df.jpg
^this is confirmed multiple times.
Interview confirmation that pandora merged DC, wildstorm and vertigo:
http://comicsalliance.com/faq-dc-comics-new-52/
So merging DC + wildstorm + vertigo = merging 3 multiverses.
DCnU is an omniverse now.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/14098868/15.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/13364977/Superman-Zone-015.jpg.html
It was also referenced in hawkman.
Originally posted by abhilegendI'm not the cosmic expert around here.
Originally posted by operator616
Interview confirmation that pandora merged DC, wildstorm and vertigo:http://comicsalliance.com/faq-dc-comics-new-52/
So merging DC + wildstorm + vertigo = merging 3 multiverses.
"There are still plenty of questions that still have no answers: Who
separated the DC Universe into three? How did this separation occur
when Swamp Thing showed up in the pre-Flashpoint Brightest Day?
How did the separated Wildstorm timeline become its own alternate
universe? Why does Grifter rate a spot next to Cyborg, Batman,
Wonder Woman and Superman? Why does merging the history of
these three universes make everyone younger? Why does Barry
remember everything about his life in the Flashpoint timeline?"
Perhaps this Pandora thingy was a retconing of sorts?
I also read that the single DC Timeline was splintered into 3 Timelines,
so, it doesn't seem like DC, Wildstorm nor Vertigo were ever complete Timelines,
or multiverses .. according to this interview.
it was never retconned. However, the term 'universe' may have well been used to describe dc as a whole, wildstorm as a whole, and vertigo as a whole.
they are definitely mutiverses (i could show you MANY other vertigo titles which contain a multiverse of their own)
which is why the bleed separates different multiverses (final crisis: secret origins files):
http://i.imgur.com/6IVsc9M.jpg?1
Also, for what it's worth, i read a while back a marvunapp page which says that DC terms (like omniverse. etc...) are the same as marvel's, im searching for it but i can't find it.
On panel, DC in itself has never referenced multiple multiverses, nor does it have an official definition for the omniverse, it has however, a definition for a meta-verse which is > multiverse.
At any given point there are several million universes that collide within an omniversal nexus point in the DCnU:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16401790/1.jpg.html
Suffice to say: the actual number of universes that comprise the entirety of DCnU would be much, much greater. So even IF you believe that Pandora only merged 3 separate universes originally, she still turned those 3 universes into an omniverse that is comprised of millions, upon millions of universes(at the very least.)
Any way you cut it, her feat is far beyond the other characters in this thread.
^^ @opr616 ... Yea, I thought about that later on, and I agree.
As for what the DC 'omniverse' is now, sites won't cut it.
Marvunapp's is awesome for detailed information, I luv em,
but even they have they're errors, and several pages needing updates,
specifically they're definition of 'omniverse'
which is still stuck in that momentary period in 2005
when Marvel joined the general idea.
As we know, Marvel quickly changed that in 2006, when their reality
became a sole omniverse like before.
So I'd have to see on panel or handbook definitions directly from DC books.
*edit* ... Did Pandora turn all of DC into one multiverse?
How many metaverses are they?
Originally posted by Galan007At any given point there are several million universes that collide
within an omniversal nexus point in the DCnU:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16401790/1.jpg.html