Well Revan has defeated Mandalore the Ultimate, Yusanis, and Malak in lightsaber duel (and dont gimme bullcrap that the first 2 are non-force sensetives, think back to Vizla vs obi wan/Maul/Ahsoka), and both could control the star forge (most who tried to do so went insane). Malak had mastery over a variety of force abilities, and was considered one of the best swordsmen in the galaxy, while Revan was probably the #1 for his time. Revan has been stated (by Bane) to know dark side techniques none would even attempt. He was also adept in the use of force choke and force lightning, coupled with his far-above-average connection to the force. I'm not saying the duo would win, but I think they have a good chance of doing so.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Well Revan has defeated Mandalore the Ultimate, Yusanis, and Malak in lightsaber duel (and dont gimme bullcrap that the first 2 are non-force sensetives, think back to Vizla vs obi wan/Maul/Ahsoka), and both could control the star forge (most who tried to do so went insane). Malak had mastery over a variety of force abilities, and was considered one of the best swordsmen in the galaxy, while Revan was probably the #1 for his time. Revan has been stated (by Bane) to know dark side techniques none would even attempt. He was also adept in the use of force choke and force lightning, coupled with his far-above-average connection to the force. I'm not saying the duo would win, but I think they have a good chance of doing so.
Good for them. That's still all rather generic, vague information that doesn't put them on Malgus' level in terms of combat.
The problem is that they're almost completely unknown. Could they beat him in lightsaber combat? Who knows, we don't know much about either of their abilities in that field in order to make that call. Being good swordsman doesn't put them above Malgus, even together. The Force? Again, lack of info. Being adept at choke and lightning and having command over a variety of abilities doesn't put them above Malgus, who has actual powerful Force feats to back him up.
They simply lack the evidence that they need to suggest that they can challenge Malgus. Without evidence we cannot make a case for them on anything but gut feeling.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Only post KotOR things I can think of (that we can really speculate) are impressive TK and force lightning storms.
Huh? Post-KotoR Revan would be "Revan reborn" as seen in the novel "Darth Revan". And there we would have his little confrontation with Darth Nyriss. In case somebody forgot:
Darth Nyriss apparently was some nice Sith Witch, who was quite the scholary type, spending most of her time in her private library, where "the walls were lined with shelves, their ancient wooden frames warped by the weight of the treasures they bore." (Darth Revan, iBook, p.37). A library including "dozens - if not hundreds - of volumes" (same source)[/i], which had "an antiquated look about them, though most appeared to be preserved in good condition, if somewhat worn from use." (same source).
Now Nyriss essentially reveals the extend of her power, trying to keep Revan as her prisoner. Unfortunatelly, two guards move in her way:
"A burst of purple lightning arced down the steps, catching both men in the chest. They barely had time to scream before they were turned into charred and smoking husks." (Darth Revan, iBook, p.250)
Right after that, she confronts Lord Scourge and Meetra (aka "The Exile"😉:
"Before they could recover [from a deadly electrical lightning bolt being fired at them], she [Nyriss] lept at them. Despite her withered appearance, she moved with all the speed and ferocity of a dark side warrior in her prime[...]that immediately threw her two opponents on the defensive." (same source)
Now, having had enough of the lightsaber fight, she prepares to annihilate the duo with the Dark Side of the Force:
"Scourge felt the energy buidling inside her, and he knew he would be powerless to stop it. Nyriss was too powerful; her command of the dark side was too strong." (Darth Revan, iBook, p.251)
Time for Revan to move into the fight:
"A dozen bolts of lightning sprang from Nyriss's hand, arcing across the room to incinerate her enemies[...]Revan stepped forward to intercept it.[...]He drew the bolts of lightning into his waiting grasp, channeling them away from their intended targets and absorbing their power." (Darth Revan, iBook, p.251f.)
"Nyriss's eyes went wide as Revan unleashed the power of her own attack against her[..]The lightning engulged her, the intense heat consuming her instantly, leaving only a pile of charred ash." (Darth Revan, iBook, p.252)
The very same source calls Revan as "the Jedi Order's most powerful champion" (p.49), who [/i]"had learned too much about the Force, both the light side and the dark, to take instruction like some common Padawan." (p.65). To reinforce that assessment, Meetra (having gone through the events of KotoR II at that point in time, if I may remind the reader), thinks that "Revan's command of the Force was greater than that of anyone else she had ever met." (p.230)
Note that the statement about him being "the Jedi Order's most powerful champion" was made in context of him defeating Mandalore in personal combat. So even before he became Darth Revan, he was - seemingly - the most powerful Jedi of his time. Now add to this power the knowledge he gathered from Malachor V - dating back to the Ancient Sith, and, seemingly, enough to frighten Darth Bane in "Path of Destruction", and you can probably conclude that even Darth Revan was a pretty nice powerhouse.
Yet, what do we have regarding Malgus, to put him into such a lofty position? From what I've seen / read, post-KotoR Revan could annihilate him on his own. Darth Revan might also be capable of bringing him down alone. A combination of Revan / Malak will most certainly be up to the task.
actually, the novel is called SWTOR: Revan (not darth revan), and malgus could most definitely take darth revan on his own, and maybe revan reborn. Malgus was no joke in lightsaber combat (he actually has better feats than revan), and he has demonstrated more powerful force abilities. Darth Revan is virtually featless 9in terms of force abilities), and therefore we can only really go on speculation. Post KotoR revan might be able to beat malgus, but he falls short on lightsaber feats as well, therefore again, difficult to speculate on.