Originally posted by mstanford2912
Like I said, Baras doesn't seem to have anything on Nox. "But he convinced everyone he was the Emperor's Voice!!" So? And it was more like a 50-50 split, with those agreeing with him really erring on the side of caution, in case they were wrong.
Uh, he's the first Sith Lord in the history of the Empire to successfully powerplay against the Emperor. That's saying something considering 2 Dark Councils tried it and got ****ed.
Originally posted by mstanford2912
Congrats, that makes him very intelligent and cunning and.....That's it.
Dumbass, do you really think you could pull something off like that without the martial prowess to back it up? Beneath all the politics and maneuvering they are still Sith Lords. The strongest rule. No one is going to bend over to someone who is weaker than they are. The Voice is able to speak for the Emperor because he/she has all the powers of the Emperor.
The fact that the Dark Councilors were willing to bend the knee to Baras even though many suspected he was full of shit about being the voice speaks volumes over Baras' power.
If Darth Vowrawn who has poor martial prowess and power due to age were to try and pull something like that, the Councilors would have treated him similar to if not worse than they treated Darth Zhorrid when she approaches the Council.
Originally posted by mstanford2912
Like I said, you've proven nothing except Baras being cunning. You can continue crying and bitching like a little girl, but it doesn't help your case.
You have to be more than cunning to take control of the Empire from 12 of the most powerful force sensitives in the galaxy. In order for them to take Baras' claim seriously they must have sensed his power. The reason people accept that the voice of the Emperor is the voice is because the Voice has the Emperor's power. That's why Marr said 'The one who lives speaks truth'. Because logically the Wrath could never defeat the Voice in martial combat. When he did it became pretty damned clear Baras was lying.
In otherwords the other Dark Councilors (at least a good majority) thought Baras to be invincible. If the Dark Council sensed weakness in anyone they'd strike. As other Dark Councils have tried twice.
In otherwords the other Dark Councilors (at least a good majority) thought Baras to be invincible. If the Dark Council sensed weakness in anyone they'd strike. As other Dark Councils have tried twice.
Originally posted by mstanford2912
No, they didn't. They erred on the side of caution. Half believed him, half didn't, but all were allowing the battle to take place to see what the truth was. All Baras proved was his cunning, nothing more.
So then why would they believe Baras was the Emperor's Voice if he didn't wield the power of the Emperor?
Originally posted by mstanford2912
It's not about being powerful enough, it's about being cunning while using the threat of uncertainty, nothing more.
It is about power, the position of the Voice was created specifically so that the Emperor could speak to his vassals with his full voice and power. A Sith would not so easily submit to being ruled by one weaker than themselves.