Emperor Vitiate vs Emperor Palpatine

Started by DarthAnt6611 pages

Originally posted by NewGuy01
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Scourge_%28Sith%29

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Vowrawn

The DE Sourcebook says Sidious is a master of every Dark Side technique. Vitiate's telepathy is included. Therefore he does.

You're about 5 years behind on this logic. That hyperbole doesn't begin to encompass anything written after that quote. You lose.

Really. Beefy's already said Sidious is better written and more powerful. As funny as it is seeing he and Sidious66 go back and forth, let's just celebrate Sidious's glory together and move on.

Except that it's not a hyperbole. It's a straightforward fact. Your move.

Better written and more powerful (DE Sidious) yes. But I rather enjoy the mystery of Vitiate more.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66

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And for clarification, the quote says "it is believed" that Sidious is a master of "almost all" the known powers.

Except that it's not a hyperbole. It's a straightforward fact. Your move.

It's hyperbole that doesn't encompass newer material. Your move🙂

Oh, it is believed? It's also believed that I have a 12 inch monster (it's true).

Originally posted by DanBrown19118
Better written and more powerful (DE Sidious) yes. But I rather enjoy the mystery of Vitiate more.

This isn't a comparison of who's the better written character though, this is a comparison of their combat abilities, an area where Sidious trumps Vitiate.

This isn't a comparison of who's the better written character though, this is a comparison of their combat abilities, an area where Sidious trumps Vitiate.

In some ways he does, in other ways he doesn't.

Originally posted by DanBrown19118
Better written and more powerful (DE Sidious) yes.

That's what I said. You said Sidious is better written and more powerful. S66 should take his victory in a classy manner and not mercilessly prod you at the risk of this thread.

Originally posted by DanBrown19118
But I rather enjoy the mystery of Vitiate more.

lol

Originally posted by The_Tempest
And for clarification, the quote says "it is believed" that Sidious is a master of "almost all" the known powers.

Wasn't it in-universe as well?

I wonder why "Beefy" believes DE Sidious is the only Sidious who is superior to Vitiate? Is it because of force storms? No, that couldn't be it, because he use to argue that Sidious can't use that power in combat. I mean, unless his mind changed?

Because DE Sidious is younger and more powerful with more tricks up his sleeves? I would think it was rather obvious for everyone but you.

Originally posted by DanBrown19118
In some ways he does, in other ways he doesn't.

You're right. Vitiate is better at making his cloney-thingies. But they'd get slaughtered by Sidious anyway.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Wasn't it in-universe as well?

That's what the "it is believed" indicates.

Andddd I'm just going to post a shit ton of Palpatine accolades you all already seen to make me feel special. ^.^

"Obi Wan Kenobi and Yoda were the only Jedi left in a position to do something about the disaster. Yoda went after Palpatine in the empty Senate chamber, but could not defeat the most powerful Sith Lord in history."
-From The New Essential Chronology

Plagueis made a soothing gesture and explained in great detail what had taken place. Concluding, he said, "He threatened, too, to place you out of reach.". All the while Plagueis spoke, Palpatine was storming through circles on the narrow path, shaking his head in anger and balling his fists. "He can't do this!" he snarled. He hasn't the right! I won't allow it!". Palpatine's fury buffeted Plagueis. Blossoms growing along the sides of the pathway folded in on themselves, and their pollinators began to buzz in agitation. FourDee reacted, as well, wobbling on its feet, as if in the grip of a powerful electromagnet. Had this human truly been born of flesh-and-blood parents? Plagueis asked himself. When, in fact, he seemed sprung from nature itself. Was the Force so strong in him that it had concealed itself?
-From Darth Plagues Novel

And then there was Palpatine, of course: he was beyond power. He showed nothing of what might be within. Though seen with the eyes of the dark side itself, Palpatine was an event horizon. Beneath his entirely ordinary surface was absolute, perfect nothingness. Darkness beyond darkness. A black hole of the Force.
-From Revenge of The Sith Novel.

"Darth Sidious proved to be the grim culmination of a thousand years of Sith philosophy and teachings."
-From Jedi vs Sith: The Essential Guide to the Force

"When the Sith finally emerged from a thousand years of watching and waiting, they numbered—in accordance with the tradition set down by Darth Bane—only two. The most powerful of these was Darth Sidious, an ice-cold, diabolically calculating genius equipped with the strength of the dark side of the Force, as well as an enormous wealth of Sith artifacts, equipment, and knowledge."
-From the Darkside Source Book

"Vader imagined the power that could be his if he crushed Palpatine and established his own rule over the Empire. But first, he would need his own apprentice. By himself, he could not hope to defeat the most powerful Sith Lord the galaxy had ever known."
-Vader: The Ultimate Guide

"Beyond the vision of the Jedi Knights, somewhere within the darkness, the greatest master of evil ever to use Sith power bides his time. As his strength grows, his plans begin to shape the course of the galaxy, and his snares await the unsuspecting."
-The Complete Visual Dictionary

"The Sith have waited millennium for the birth of one who is powerful enough to return them from hiding. Darth Sidious is that one—the Sith's revenge on the Jedi order for having nearly eradicated the practitioners of the dark side of the Force."
-The Complete Visual Dictionary

"Palpatine was power, yet he was nothing compared to Darth Ant, the direct descendant of Revan himself."
-United States of America Constitution

"The feeling had begun as a faint stirring in the Force, like the tiniest ripple of something moving slowly through deep water, far away but drawing steadily closer. It intensified, until it felt like the Force itself was boiling, heaving like the sea in the grip of an enormous storm.
"I sense a presence..." Maul warned Savage, "A presence I haven't felt since... No! Master!"
-Shadow Conspiracy

"To most eyes the man in those simple robes of rough cloth was unremarkable, just another being making his way in the universe. But to those who could feel the Force he was anything but ordinary. To them, he was a dark sun blazing with power that was simultaneously hypnotizing and terrifying to behold. Darth Sidious had come to Mandalore."
-Shadow Conspiracy

Originally posted by DanBrown19118
But I rather enjoy the mystery of Vitiate more.

...All right, you got me. I have to ask: what mystery?

darthant666
"Palpatine was power, yet he was nothing compared to Ant himself, the direct descendant of Revan himself."
-United States of America Constitution

Miz Thang, what tricks does he have up his sleeve besides force storm?

And I don't see how being in a younger body makes any difference to you since you believe Sidious wouldn't be able get near Vitiate.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
[U] "Palpatine was power, yet he was nothing compared to Ant himself, the direct descendant of Revan himself."
-United States of America Constitution

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